I guess Safari is the only major browser left that is just a browser. Google is an ad company. Microsoft is an ad company. Mozilla is an ad company. Brave is a crypto company. And these next wave of browsers are all going to be infested with AI, I suppose. Apple sells phones.
Safari wont let you easily set kagi as default search. Seems like something a major browser should allow.
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I’m personally a Kagi early adopter and Protonmail user for all other standard GSuite product replacements. I find this arrangement perfectly smooth and painless, and never once wished that the services that I get from Proton in any way interacted with the service I get from Kagi. It’s not clear to me at all that duplicating the google product spread would be the best way to extend the value to customers of Kagi sear…
One use case: I would like to be able to see my emails appear in search results when relevant. Also would like to be able to quikly search the web when writing emails. This is not rocket science but for this you need deep integration between email and search. For some reason Google didn't do this in 20 years although perfectly capable of.
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Do many Kagi customers use Orion? Are you having trouble retaining ones who don't? > I am 100% sure I'm definitely less than 100% sure. (I'd take a bet at those odds.) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43982643
Many customers do, and in fact Orion feedback forum [1] is more active than Kagi feedback forum [2] (we do not have any telemetry and all product input is given directly by our users). While Kagi has "only" about 50k customers, Orion was downloaded more than a million times last year and continues to be a major distribution channel and entry point for the Kagi eco-sytem. (you are not seeing any ads for Kagi right? Ou…
I use Linux at home, Mac at work, and have an iPhone, and very few apps look native and work seamlessly across all 3.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many customers do, and in fact Orion feedback forum [1] is more active than Kagi feedback forum [2] (we do not have any telemetry and all product input is given directly by our users). While Kagi has "only" about 50k customers, Orion was downloaded more than a million times last year and continues to be a major distribution channel and entry point for the Kagi eco-sytem. (you are not seeing any ads for Kagi right? Ou…
How do you plan to solve sync (bookmarks, history etc..) when going cross platform? iCloud makes things easy when it's just Mac/iOS, but that won't work for Linux. I use Linux at home, Mac at work, and have an iPhone, and very few apps look native and work seamlessly across all 3.
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#75So I hate Safari with a burning passion and Firefox on iOS isn't much better. Ideally I'd run FF everywhere, but lacking Apple Pay support and iOS anti-competitively locking out extensions to non-Safari browsers make this a non-starter. I VERY BADLY want to make this my daily driver across all of my devices, but between weird rendering bugs (which are decreasing), janky 1Pass support (which is improving), lacking his…
I use Orion as my daily driver on my Mac. The bugginess has largely passed.
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#77Is there another way?
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Kagi founder here. I like simplicity too, but if that is the only thing I cared about I would have never attempted to build a paid search engine. We started working on the browser before we started working on search. There were many browsers and search engines before us, and all of them failed because you can not compete with an ecosystem company (Google) with a single product. If your customers use your search engin…
You indicate wide extension compatibility. This is more of a thought experiment (by virtue of inbuilt adblocking), does - or do you hope/plan for - the likes of uBlock Origin work.
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#80I really like Kagi, but I'm starting to get that same sense of anticipatory melancholy I used to get when I found a really good drug dealer back in the day - this product or service is fantastic, and I'm very happy to be able to give it money, but I recognize this is a short term affair and some day I'll be back to having to search for it again. I would continue to pay Kagi $10 a month forever for exactly the product…
Kagi founder here. I like simplicity too, but if that is the only thing I cared about I would have never attempted to build a paid search engine. We started working on the browser before we started working on search. There were many browsers and search engines before us, and all of them failed because you can not compete with an ecosystem company (Google) with a single product. If your customers use your search engin…
Although I have to be honest - even as a very devoted and technical user, I still have no idea what or why assistant is.
Luckily it doesn’t take away from everything else you’ve built.