There is no free lunch when VC money is involved, and the new weekly rate limits in Claude code now are just the latest example of that. I knew there was going to be a rugpull and it definitely changes the psychology of using it when you know you could be locked out for multiple days. Also saying that "Less than 5% of users are affected" = anyone actually USING this tool for real work...
Stop selling “unlimited”, when you mean “until we change our minds”
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#32"I firmly believe that AI will not replace developers, but a developer using AI will replace a developer who does not."
Ugh, anyone who says that and really believes it can no longer see common sense through the hype goggles.
It's just stupid and completely 100% wrong, like saying all musicians will use autotune in the future because it makes the music better.
It's the same as betting that there will be no new inventions, no new art, no works of genius unless the creator is taking vitamin C pills.
It's one of the most un-serious claims I can imagine making. It automatically marks the speaker as a clown divorced from basic facts about human ability
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#33If a company promises "unlimited" I usually don't believe them with very very few exceptions such as unlimited internet on a home internet.
not sure if this is a joke, but most home internet plans get throttled after some secret limit.
Not here in Germany at least as far as i know, though i'm mostly limited by bandwidth anyway. In practical terms maybe if you really use excessive amounts of data on a residential line but i've never heard of anyone hitting those limits and i'm seeding torrents 24/7
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#34I'm trying to cancel my Claude plan right now, because mid-research I got hit with a one hour time out for the first time, and I realized just how little I need the "expensive" research stuff and just want basic language refinement and some basic augmented knowledge search to get more terms to search the web. And all that basic stuff gets cutoff when you hit some invisible barrier that you have no way of controlling…
Google and OpenAI have done similar things with their LLM offerings.
Gemini Advanced offered 2.5 Pro with nearly unlimited rate limits, then nerfed it to 100/day.
OpenAI silently nerfed the maximum context window of reasoning models in their Pro plan.
Accompanying the nerf is usually a psy op, like nerfing to 50/day then increasing it to 100/day so the anchoring effect reduces the grievance.
It's a smart ploy because as much as we like to say there's no moat, the user does face provider switching costs (time and effort), which serves as a mini-moat for status quo provider.
So providers have an incentive to rope people in with a loss leader, and then rug pull once they gained market share. Maybe 40% of the top 5% of Claude users are now too accustomed to their Claude-based workflows, and inertia will keep them as customers, but now they're using the more expensive API instead. Anthropic won.
Modern bait and switch, although done intelligently so no laws are broken.
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#36It's like love: "I will love you forever".-
What people don't realize is that love isn't just having butterflies in your stomach all the time. Love changes over time, and saying I will love you forever is reasonable if sincere. I love all of my friends and I will love them forever. If I say that to my SO I mean it, even if we separate. People just want the initial rush of love until the chemicals fade.
Fair enough. Well put.-
Was trying to "analogize" to "unlimited".-
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#37One way to look at it: instead of negotiating up front, they fired their top 5% customers.
There is a leaderboard encouraging people to waste as many tokens as possible [0]. I'm quite sure Anthropic is very eager to get rid of these "customers." [0]: https://www.viberank.app/
I’m pretty sure the top entries there are fabricated. You can’t burn that much with just a regular max subscription.
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#38anthropic is blaming its users "we wouldn't have to do this if you guys weren't so naughty. No TV for you. "
"You will chew on your rock and you will like it!"
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#39When you offer "unlimited", you're immediately exposing yourself to the 0.1% of userbase that will absolutely treat it is unlimited. Whale users/hoarders. This has been a known problem since the dawn of hosting...hell, it goes back to times before computers. One thing I miss for the other users, i.e. the casual users that never use anywhere near of their quota, is rollover. If you haven't used your quota this month,…
One does find it occasionally. My mobile phone plan (in Sweden) currently says that I have 774G left of my 25G/month quota for example :)
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#40Did Anthropic ever use the term unlimited? I understand the general frustration with the pattern, but it seems weird to put unlimited in quotes when it wasn’t the way Claude was sold.
Nope.