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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by cypherpunks01 »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #277
Synaesthesia wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UNRWA managed to distribute food without killing Palestinians, as did many other agencies. I don't see why GHF has to commit these frequent massacres in their aid distribution.

Because UNRWA gives the aid to Hamas, no fighting. GHF doesn't give Hamas power, Hamas attacks the GHF, Hamas shoots people trying to pick up food.

Right, except that all credible reports from the US government and senior Israeli military officials indicate there was never any large diversion of UN aid to Hamas. It was just a fog-of-war story made up by the Israeli government as a supposedly plausible reason to hermetically seal Gaza and prevent millions of civilians from receiving food.

Sources:

NYT: No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say

https://archive.is/1bllc

Reuters: USAID analysis found no evidence of massive Hamas theft of Gaza aid

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/usaid-analysis-fou...

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by kayodelycaon »

diebeforei485 wrote: post #349
kayodelycaon wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The destruction is fully visible in satellite footage. Associated Press has “before and after” comparisons.

Israel lobbied for restrictions on the resolution of satellite footage of the occupied Palestinian territories, so it tends to be a lot more blurred than images of anywhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyl–Bingaman_Amendment

Wonderful. Fortunately, it doesn’t seem to be hiding much.

I can see destroyed buildings on Google Maps. :(

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by waterlaw »

subpixel wrote: post #416
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

Those who wield power in Israel have calculated that they can do whatever they want at this moment and that they will enjoy functional impunity. I repudiate what they are doing, but I do not disagree with their calculation. I can imagine no scenario where any foreign power tries to actually stop them.

There are numerous clips of Rabbis openly promoting the extermination of Palestinians.

They use the story of Amalek from the Torah.

One of the Rabbis I watched recently said "when you kill the first child it breaks your heart [...] then you start to enjoy it."

_Many_ Rabbis are demanding that animals, children, women and unarmed males be "erased." IDF soldiers are bragging about killing and raping civilians on social media. One IDF soldier was complaining he hasn't shot any children under 12 yet.

Netanyahu is a moderate. He's not an "extremist."

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by asddubs »

carefulfungi wrote: post #258
kn0where wrote: post #239

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It’s fine to accept your mom or your neighbor changing their mind, but I think we should be skeptical of politicians changing their mind and consider what hidden, calculated motives they may have for changing it now, when they had plenty of information to reach the same conclusion over a year ago.

Then what does winning actually look like today? Sure. Run against these people and support their political opposition in the next election. But take the win on the short term and get food to Gaza.

it's worth noting that joe biden lied about trying to get a ceasefire, as we now know. So it's worth being skeptical, though of course I agree that ultimately what matters are results.

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Post by actionfromafar »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #277
Synaesthesia wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UNRWA managed to distribute food without killing Palestinians, as did many other agencies. I don't see why GHF has to commit these frequent massacres in their aid distribution.

Because UNRWA gives the aid to Hamas, no fighting. GHF doesn't give Hamas power, Hamas attacks the GHF, Hamas shoots people trying to pick up food.

What is your argument? That if Hamas could eat, nobody can?

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Post by arbitrary_name »

waterlaw wrote: post #453
subpixel wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those who wield power in Israel have calculated that they can do whatever they want at this moment and that they will enjoy functional impunity. I repudiate what they are doing, but I do not disagree with their calculation. I can imagine no scenario where any foreign power tries to actually stop them.

There are numerous clips of Rabbis openly promoting the extermination of Palestinians. They use the story of Amalek from the Torah. One of the Rabbis I watched recently said "when you kill the first child it breaks your heart [...] then you start to enjoy it." _Many_ Rabbis are demanding that animals, children, women and unarmed males be "erased." IDF soldiers are bragging about killing and raping civilians on social…

Evidence please!

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Post by lazyasciiart »

YZF wrote: post #427
ivape wrote: post #347

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You're confusing hatred for Palestinians with hatred for Gazans. Most Israelis do not hate Palestinians. There might be some. There's definitely a lot of hate to Gazans after Oct 7th which is understandable. As to the "what are we supposed to do" part- What are they supposed to do? How would you navigate this better after Oct 7th given the setup/hostages etc.? Israel has officially said many times they are not target…

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Post by dang »

clown_strike wrote: post #272
xyst wrote: post #117

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WTF? Between this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42299743 and the fact that you've done this before with other accounts, I've seen enough to ban this one.

Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by tehjoker »

This was utterly predictable. GHF is a mercenary front plan developed by Israel and implemented by the United States to displace UNRWA so they can starve Palestinians and draw them into zones that are easier to ethnically cleanse.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-backed-aid-grou...

Re: ‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by dang »

cm2012 wrote: post #303
clown_strike wrote: post #272

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Its pretty unbelievable to see openly anti semitic comments like this on HN. Replace "Jew" with "Black" or "Indian" and its obvious how discriminatory this comment is (if it is not glaring already).

I agree and am confident that the overwhelming majority of the HN community agrees as well.
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