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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by dralley »

mandmandam wrote: post #153
dralley wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand - when Israel struck the parking lot of that hospital a couple of weeks ago everyone was so confident that the IDF was lying when they said that there was a command bunker just underneath the entrance of the hospital. Not only did that end up being completely true, but the IDF killed Muhammad Sinwar in that strike. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/world/middleeast/gaza-hos...

> As a condition for joining the controlled tour, The New York Times agreed not to ... publish geographic details > according to the Israeli military > There are no known entrances to the tunnel within the hospital itself > According to the World Health Organization, Israel has conducted at least 686 attacks on health facilities in Gaza since the start of the war, damaging at least 33 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals > In othe…

You can literally see both the tunnel and the hospital entrance in the picture NYT provides.

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Post by hirvi74 »

NomDePlum wrote: post #200
hirvi74 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do Jewish people accept the genocide going on right now? Israel is predominately Jewish in religion and ethnicity, but Israel does not represent all Jewish people. While I am not Jewish, I would imagine some might find to conflation to be highly offensive.

It's obviously not all Jewish people, but there are unfortunately many Jewish communities who are very supportive of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. Particularly in the US it's something that has allowed what is happening to continue almost exclusively unopposed. More generally the West has morally failed, so certainly not exclusive to any religion. That the term anti-Semitism is constantly used to deflect or tar those…

> It's obviously not all Jewish people

Really? Because the initial GP comment did not parameterize Jewish people which hold certain views. The GP comment just said, "How do Jewish people accept the genocide going on right now?"

> That the term anti-Semitism is constantly used to deflect or tar those objecting to Israels mass killing of civilians really is equally offensive I would suggest.

Ok? I nor anyone else at the time of this comment called the GP an anti-semite, so I am not sure why you feel compelled to mention this point.

The entire point of my initial comment was to bring attention to the attempt to paint entire, non-monolithic group of people with such a large brush. If you want to argue about the rhetoric used in pro-Palestinian vs. pro-Israeli online-discourse, then I implore you to find another comment. I imagine there likely some in this very thread.

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Post by josephg »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #241
zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

An interesting thing in this case then is to see how these mind-changers are treating the people who called it correctly from the beginning. Is there any mea culpa, any contrition for the lives they could have saved by acting earlier? apologies for the protestors they attacked, the movements they painted as antisemitic? Anything learned for the future. We all had the same information after all.

What do you imagine that mea culpa to look like?

Personally I don’t see it being a case of one side of protesters being “right” and “wrong”. I just think Israel should have pulled out an awfully long time ago. They went too far, have done too much damage and the calculus doesn’t make sense any more. I have no problem with the initial invasion of Gaza to stop Hamas and get their people back. I’m not sorry for saying so, or holding that position after Hamas gave them such a clear casus belli. But it doesn’t seem to be about that any more. There’s been too much bloodshed. Something needs to change.

I’m not sure what you’re looking for. An apology? For what, exactly? For being told there are antisemitic people taking advantage of this conflict to hate on Jews? There are.

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Post by LightBug1 »

asdefghyk wrote: post #215

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This man is definitely not the only one who has come forward. At want point to do you actually take multiple witnesses and believe them?

Many aid agencies and other sources on the ground have also verified many of the claims, when journalists can't (considering they've been banned from entering). Are all the aid agencies lying too?

And sometimes, just sometimes, in this world of AI now, video evidence is accurate.

The world is imperfect, and so we go with the balance of probabilities.

And I'll confirm for you. There's a murderous genocide taking place.

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Post by LorenPechtel »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #73
YZF wrote: post #19

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/byodxibvgl "Gaza Humanitarian Foundation chair Johnnie Moore accuses UN of 'playing politics' with Gazan lives, defends IDF and denies claims of mass casualties near aid sites, saying more people harmed in 24 hours of UN efforts than during weeks of GHF operations" He also discusses the specific individual here: "How do you respond to the claim from a former special forces operative w…

UNRWA managed to distribute food without killing Palestinians, as did many other agencies. I don't see why GHF has to commit these frequent massacres in their aid distribution.

Because UNRWA gives the aid to Hamas, no fighting. GHF doesn't give Hamas power, Hamas attacks the GHF, Hamas shoots people trying to pick up food.

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Post by marai2 »

diebeforei485 wrote: post #237

Israel does not allow international journalists in and it's fairly obvious why.

BBC's Jeremy Bowen was on the Jordanian aid-dropping plane yesterday or day before. "He was told by the Jordanians that Israel did not want our crew to film outside the plane's windows while he was onboard".[1] Obviously why - then he'd be able to film the ... not decimation, but total destruction of some of the cities in Gaza that would provide evidence for the genocide.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/clyj4gnzxgno

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