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‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF aid site [video]

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Post by joyeuse6701 »

danbruc wrote: post #202

»If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?« David Ben-Gurion, First Prim…

That cannot be. Hamas isn’t interested in a Palestinian state, they are interested in the destruction of Israel. Iran and all its proxies think this way. It is their raison d’etre. Giving them a state would not end the war.

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Post by jahewson »

karim79 wrote: post #301

Related, Israeli human rights groups are coming forward as well. The following is just one report: https://www.npr.org/2025/07/28/nx-s1-5482881/israel-gaza-gen... EDIT: The BBC also reports on the same subject: https://search.app/1LP8A

I look up the first of those “human rights groups” and see that it’s explicitly a Palestine advocacy group with 38 employees. How’s this anywhere near objective?

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Post by woodruffw »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #169
throwway120385 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a while people would label arguments against Israel as being against the Jewish people or the Jewish faith. That is, decrying how Gaza and the West Bank were formed were seen as anti-semitic arguments. It was essentially an argument that Israel is Judaism. Whereas mature people can usually argue against a behavior without arguing against a person or a group of people.

In so weaponizing "antisemitism" through unethical and immoral political attacks, it increases actual antisemitism and makes the term lose its importance. Meanwhile, 20k Hasidic Jews met in an arena in NYC to denounce what Israel was doing and that they don't speak for them. The sheer arrogance of a secular political regime claiming to speak for an entire people whom aren't citizens of their country and never agreed…

A thought-provoking argument that I read recently was that Israel's relationship with the diaspora has undergone a fundamental shift in the last 20 years, largely tracking with demographics: it's no longer the case that Jewish life is primarily diasporic in nature, and Israel's growing impatience (and sometimes open disdain) for the diaspora tracks with that demographic reality.

I think this is an underrepresented factor in why Israel feels unilaterally emboldened in this conflict: there's no longer a statistically more liberal, secular, identifiably Jewish majority outside of the country that serves as a check on its actions.

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Post by zahlman »

anonymars wrote: post #408
zahlman wrote: post #400

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> Tangentially related, I never understood how the anti-BDS laws square with the first amendment At my university, a portion of my dues went to funding BDS efforts (what expenses do they even have?) and I had no clear means to object to this. This was in Canada, but it seems to me perfectly fair to oppose that. That said: > Most anti-BDS laws have taken one of two forms: contract-focused laws requiring government con…

> At my university, a portion of my dues went to funding BDS efforts Surely you can protest that at the university and it is not a government-enforced policy? > Substitute, for example, any domestic racial minority for "Israel" Is "Israel" a race or a country? Should a Canadian not be allowed to boycott the US?

> Is "Israel" a race or a country? Should a Canadian not be allowed to boycott the US?

The legislation described does not prevent boycotts, except by government contractors who have a duty to government policy and thus do not necessarily enjoy those protections (https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47986):

> Speech restrictions imposed by private entities, and government limits on its own speech, usually do not implicate the First Amendment.

As for public investment funds: you'll need to explain to me how saying that X may not invest in Y because Y is refusing to buy things from Z, causes Y to stop being able to refuse to buy things from Z (i.e., compels Y to buy things from Z).

If you want to not buy things from Israel, then... just don't. You don't need my money, or a private investment firm's, in order to achieve that.

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Post by mupuff1234 »

submeta wrote: post #83
dang wrote: post #48

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> The downvotes and flagged comments in this post are clearly not "organic" FWIW the downvotes and flags in threads like this, including this thread, do seem largely organic to me, and well within the range of what one expects from a divisive and emotional topic. People often use words like "clearly" in making such descriptions (I don't mean to pick on you personally! countless users do this, from all sides of all is…

Dang, how can you say for sure they are organic? Just because the downvoters appear to be human and seem not to be bots? Even if the dovnvotes came from human beings: Israel apologists are very organised. Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett publicly emphasized the importance of Wikipedia as an information source and stated that Israelis should learn how to edit Wikipedia. Israeli Hasbara, also known as publ…

And how can you say it's not the opposite?

China, Russia, Iran, etc would definitely benefit from pouring fuel on this topic.

Not sure why you think only one side does it.

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Post by subpixel »

zetazzed wrote: post #220

I see an increasing number of politicians taking the position: "I supported Israel's government's actions when they first attacked, given the goals of destroying Hamas' leadership and freeing hostages, but now that it has turned into a brutal siege with mass civilian casualties on a horrific scale, I'm strongly against their actions." E.g. Macron, Angus King, and many people I know personally. And I think we need to…

Those who wield power in Israel have calculated that they can do whatever they want at this moment and that they will enjoy functional impunity.

I repudiate what they are doing, but I do not disagree with their calculation. I can imagine no scenario where any foreign power tries to actually stop them.

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Post by nulld3v »

alphan0n wrote: post #269
rany_ wrote: post #256

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Yes, Israel is the one currently banning international journalists from entering Gaza. Hamas has no reason to.

Why doesn’t Egypt allow journalists through the Raffah crossing? Or refugees..?

rany has given a good answer, but I also want to add that currently the Egyptians only control the Rafah crossing on paper.

In reality, Israel controls the crossing because they have occupied/seized the strip of land in Gaza that is adjacent to the crossing (Philadelphi Corridor). Here's a similar complaint from Egyptian media: https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/1234/550260/Egypt...

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

beepbopboopp wrote: post #365
literatepeople wrote: post #329

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It's hard to describe to people who don't have family there, but this exactly. The goal is similar to American "manifest destiny". They want to, through whatever means necessary, displace (at best) the existing Palestinian population and take their land.

Please explain to me what you mean. From my perspective, they handed over control of the region and have had countless opportunities since the handoff to occupy the land permanently had they so chosen. Couldn't it just as easily be argued that they no longer trust sharing a border with them?

I feel like it would have been harder to get this far without international support had the Oct 7th attack not happened. I don’t know about you, but I’d be a bit more lenient if you’re trying to rescue civilian hostages.

I don’t know anything about the impetus for the Oct 7th attack was, but you have to wonder why.

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Post by vdupras »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #325

It will all stop when the terrorists return all the hostages.

That's an interesting point of view. If that is actually the goal of Israel right now, what if the Hamas executed all hostages on the spot, right now? Would Israel say "we have no more military objective, time to go home" or would they leash out in retaliation?

I think we know what the answer would be. Because we know that, how can what you say possibly be true?

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Post by gaoguixi »

neom wrote: post #377

Putin, 2005: https://irp.fas.org/news/2005/04/putin042505.html Xi, 2012 - (中华儿女) - Chinese Dream - https://chinacopyrightandmedia.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/spee... Netanyahu - 2015 - https://www.wsj.com/articles/netanyahu-makes-final-plea-for-... These 3 guys have been saying the same thing for a long time now, sometimes quietly, sometimes loudly... we should probably take better note.

Trump - 2025 - https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/07/president-trump-...

This guy wanna make his country great again right now

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