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Re: I drank every cocktail

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Can't know just from that one data point. A "problem with alcohol" is a lack of self control, like, if you're social and have dinner out with friends most nights a week, do you feel compelled to have a couple drinks on nights you're home doing nothing in particular.

Having just a couple of drinks is hardly a lack of self control. The whole bottle or 6 pack on the other hand...

Still can't know. Could be 2 strong IPAs (i.e., a six pack).

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I had a similar obsession with cocktails starting in 2019 after moving out of NYC and missing it. So I started making my way through the Death & Company book and it inspired https://www.cocktaillove.com to keep track of everything and know what I could actually make given the ingredients on hand. It’s been a fun side project ever since, and I’ve made a little over 200 (and photographed them all) so far.

These are your photography? Looks very nice!

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Re: I drank every cocktail

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My second advice would be ice ice ice. A bartender uses copious amounts of ice. It's for a reason. If you make a mojito at home and just chuck two ice cubes in, you will either get waaayyy too much soda in when filling the glass, a too hot drink, too watered down etc.

> A bartender uses copious amounts of ice. It's for a reason. $$$$$$$$$

A decent bartender will measure the drinks regardless of ice. I've been doing them at home and a generous amount of ice leads to better results, especially if you like ice cold drinks!

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my favorite cocktail these days is the bijou, which you can think of as a negroni with green chartreuse instead of campari, and with orange bitters—you wouldn't think chartreuse and italian vermouth would make a good drink but it's fantastic bonus if garnished with a green olive

I'm out of chartreuse. Think it'll work with absinthe?

in the best case you'll invent a new drink but I doubt it'll be very good; start with a very small amount instead of using the same proportions as with chartreuse and you may get somewhere interesting, like a gin sazerac kind of drink

Re: I drank every cocktail

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Did you, though? Many great cocktails (including ones on the IBA list) are really show cases of a very specific liqueur or spirit... and when that product dies, you may have something similar, or something inspired by, or something attempting to recreate... but you haven't had the classic cocktail. For example, unless you stir up a new-old-stock bottle of Kina Lillet (and its flavor has held up over time), I'd argue…

I sort of understand the motivation to get the exact flavor of the cocktail recipe (especially with an ingredient like Kina Lillet), but for the most part, I find ingredients specified by brand name somewhat annoying, especially for home bars.

It rather depends how specific the flavor of the ingredient is, though. Not everything has generic versions. "Maker's Mark" instead of "bourbon" probably doesn't add anything to a recipe -- exploring other bourbons is likely to give good results, although it may be valuable if the bourbon specified has particularly unusual characteristics that the drink is balanced around. And even Cointreau instead of triple sec is silly (in my opinion), although Grand Marnier is different enough to call out (and to expect some work needed when subbing). But for something like Green Chartreuse... it's a brand name, sure, but it's also what it is; there's nothing else like it, nothing else that you can use to build the same drink. And Kina Lillet is in that category. There are plenty of "brand name" drinks that were never popular enough to generate near-exact clones, and are gone to the giant Long Island Ice Tea in the sky.

Re: I drank every cocktail

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In _regarding cocktails_, the note from the author is that it's better to have a cold drink with too much ice than one that isn't staying cold The tacit advice is to drink faster than the ice melts (and if there is no ice, enjoy quickly) Anecdotally at home and out, I've found I agree. But it could be a mental trick

Interesting that the size of the ice is not mentioned. I find large pieces of ice to be ideal as they cool the drink for longer yet don't overly water down the drink due to less surface area melting off. Also, I HATE when bartenders add too little ice to shaken drinks and end up shaking it to oblivion. Makes me not want to order drinks from that particular bar.

It does make a difference. The big rock ice is great for whiskey and scotch the reason you mentioned; keeps it cold with minimal dilution. Crushed ice is great when you want dilution, like in a mint julep. It really depends on the style of cocktail and personal preference.

Re: I drank every cocktail

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Aside: The internet is terrible for cocktail recipes. Discovery is terrible, recipes are badly listed most of the time, and the blogs don't curate well. Youtube is not that bad if you can find a good channel with someone that has actually worked in a bar, but even then, they tend to go downhill after a while. It's a time limited gig. The best way to grow your repertoire is to go to Goodwill and browse the book sectio…

On YouTube, I follow:

- Steve the bartender - How to drink - Cocktail time with Kevin Koz - The educated barfly - Anders Erickson

Good recipes, sometimes adding new things, but usually tasteful.

But maybe they're better to search for than to strictly follow regularly; there's so many cocktails that is impossible to buy all ingredients or try all of them.

Re: I drank every cocktail

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If you wanna run thru this list and get a tally, I quickly created this lovable app: https://cocktail-checkered-log.lovable.app/ . I'm at 68/102!

Cool! 27 here! And I thought of myself as a connoisseur!

Re: I drank every cocktail

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Alcohol is insanely expensive in Norway. Not the place to be if you are a big drinker

Unpopular opinion, but I think this is a great idea for alcohol and cigarettes, especially in areas with high rates of alcoholism.

That is in fact why alcohol is insanely expensive in Norway. Because they have historically had high rates of alcoholism and want to combat that.

Re: I drank every cocktail

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> I have more than a drink or two in one night I'm curious the opinion of those here on this. Are you able to be classified as "having a problem with alcohol" if you "only have 2 drinks a night" a lot?

Can you skip a night and not miss it, and does it negatively affect your life? If there's no ill effects and you're not dependent, I don't see a problem.

Sure. But over the course of 90 days, I feel like there's regression/reversion towards the mean. Average a few drinks a week kind of thing.

Skip a night, sure.

Skip it for 3 months... probably not.

Is that how addiction starts?

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