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Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by mathiaspoint »

perihelions wrote: post #31
mingus88 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sound surprised? The administration has been purging non-loyalists since January. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start firing anyone who even downloaded the app.

The FBI's literally putting employees under polygraphs to purge non-MAGA loyalists. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/fbi-polygraph... > "Some senior officials who have taken the test have been asked whether they said anything negative about the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel."

I was (at least up until the other week) extremely pro MAGA and did not like Patel.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

>Reality speak:

Reality is more than large enough for it to both be used my "citizens who reasonably want to provide oversight" and be used by criminals who will use it to evade capture and target ICE agents. It is even reasonable for someone who works for that agency to wonder if such citizen activism might not be turned (in the future, I have not heard of specific incidents so far) to threats against its agents.

If there were a SWAT raid in progress, with officers sneaking up behind a building blaring "Oh no, the popo's here!" on a loudspeaker might well be judged to put their lives at risk. Not only would I expect it to lead to criminal charges (and past that, conviction), I don't much imagine anyone here would argue that the punishment was unwarranted. This doesn't change just because you have a different opinion about illegal immigration than a bank hostage situation or illicit meth factories.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by drivingmenuts »

Terr_ wrote: post #8

In addition to the obvious problems of the US government illegally firing one family-member solely to punish a different family-member's constitutionally-protected free-speech... I'd also highlight these aren't even the same part of the federal government. ICE is under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), whereas she is/was employed as a forensic accountant at the Department of Justice (DOJ). To make an throw-b…

The oath says "Support and Defend the Constitution", not "Support and Defend the Con". I really hope she can sue them for a ridiculous amount of damages.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

dathinab wrote: post #34
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

btw. this > ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture is highly dehumanizing language you normally find only and autocratic regimes ruled by force and despotism instead of law if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm you alarm bells should ring in overdrive historically speaking language like this has pretty reliably an indicator of a country going to commit mass mur…

What's "reliable indicator" here? That it happened once?

>if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm

The term "illegal alien" has been the norm in the United States my entire life and I'm 51. Only recently has it started to not become the norm, because the youngest generations have unbridled enthusiasm for the euphemism treadmill, so first they became "undocumented", and then lately differently-citizenated or whatever.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by cycomanic »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #52
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

>Reality speak: Reality is more than large enough for it to both be used my "citizens who reasonably want to provide oversight" and be used by criminals who will use it to evade capture and target ICE agents. It is even reasonable for someone who works for that agency to wonder if such citizen activism might not be turned (in the future, I have not heard of specific incidents so far) to threats against its agents. If…

> Reality is more than large enough for it to both be used my "citizens who reasonably want to provide oversight" and be used by criminals who will use it to evade capture and target ICE agents. It is even reasonable for someone who works for that agency to wonder if such citizen activism might not be turned (in the future, I have not heard of specific incidents so far) to threats against its agents.

That's a pretty broad brush, all sorts of free speech could (and is) used by criminals to evade capture or target law enforcement agents. Are you proposing that we should ban phone and chat applications?

More specifically aren't there apps in the US that report the location of speed cameras, breath testing stops etc? I thought I even heard this being broadcasted on the radio. Are you arguing this is illegal?

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by baggy_trough »

dathinab wrote: post #34
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

btw. this > ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture is highly dehumanizing language you normally find only and autocratic regimes ruled by force and despotism instead of law if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm you alarm bells should ring in overdrive historically speaking language like this has pretty reliably an indicator of a country going to commit mass mur…

That is quite an overreaction. The language is normal.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by FireBeyond »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #47
dboreham wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer Really? So if my wife works for Google and I work for Facebook, she has to get me to quit Facebook? Or if my wife works for Google and I found a start up making a search app, then she has to get me to wind up my start up?

More like - if your wife works for Facebook and also owns a slice of twitter. You are really reaching here

Guess I better divest my tech stocks then!

Because I work for a tech company, and some of the stocks I own could, tangentially or otherwise, be competitors to my employer.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by mcphage »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #9
arunabha wrote: post #2

From the article The DOJ told Newsweek: "For several weeks, the Department of Justice inquired into this former employee's activities and discovered she has a sizable interest in All U Chart, Inc., the company that holds the IP for ICEBlock. ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture while endangering the lives of ICE officers by disclosing their location. This DOJ will not tolerate threats against l…

Identifying and catalog law enforcement actors are not threats. Certainly, they feel threatened by the threat of current or future accountability, but that is their feeling. https://www.rcfp.org/reporters-recording-sections/right-to-r... https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/stopped-by-police

I imagine they’ll feel even worse when the war crimes trials start. Ah, well.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by vorpalhex »

dathinab wrote: post #34
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

btw. this > ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture is highly dehumanizing language you normally find only and autocratic regimes ruled by force and despotism instead of law if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm you alarm bells should ring in overdrive historically speaking language like this has pretty reliably an indicator of a country going to commit mass mur…

I'm a US citizen.

If I illegally enter Japan or Mexico, am I not committing a crime? I would expect to (and both of these countries would) be arrested and returned to the US, usually after being fined and not allowed re-entry.

An Alien is the correct and proper name for a non-resident.

Someone who illegally enters a country is an Illegal Alien.

Are Japan and Mexico on the verge of committing mass murder?

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