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Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by seanw444 »

perihelions wrote: post #31
mingus88 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sound surprised? The administration has been purging non-loyalists since January. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start firing anyone who even downloaded the app.

The FBI's literally putting employees under polygraphs to purge non-MAGA loyalists. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/fbi-polygraph... > "Some senior officials who have taken the test have been asked whether they said anything negative about the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel."

There's a lot of "MAGA loyalists" who would fail that test too.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by singleshot_ »

golergka wrote: post #38
docdeek wrote: post #26

There’s a bit more context in this article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bondi-takes-revenge-fami... According to this article, she self-reported to the DOJ ("Feinstein says that she took it upon herself to inform the DOJ of her relationship with Aaron after the backlash first kicked off more than three weeks ago.”). The people from the DOJ who contacted her initially were looking into ethical issues ("Within…

> she is a ‘minority shareholder’ in the app development company Let's suppose this means she is directly linked to this anti-ICE app, profits from it (if it even has any revenue?) and is interested in the apps success. Does it mean that she has ethical conflict with her DOJ position?

MPRE 1.11(a)(2) would suggest “no” if she worked on matters related to the US Trustee at DOJ and not immigration related matters.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by nilespotter »

dathinab wrote: post #34
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

btw. this > ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture is highly dehumanizing language you normally find only and autocratic regimes ruled by force and despotism instead of law if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm you alarm bells should ring in overdrive historically speaking language like this has pretty reliably an indicator of a country going to commit mass mur…

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Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by bdangubic »

seanw444 wrote: post #41
perihelions wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FBI's literally putting employees under polygraphs to purge non-MAGA loyalists. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/fbi-polygraph... > "Some senior officials who have taken the test have been asked whether they said anything negative about the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel."

There's a lot of "MAGA loyalists" who would fail that test too.

all of them :)

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by 0xy »

dboreham wrote: post #40
Mobil1 wrote: post #4

She owns half of the company is why she was fired!

Anyone married owns a 1/2 interest of whatever their spouse is engaged in for business (modulo pre-nups and what not).

Nonsense. She's a shareholder personally. This isn't theoretical.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by zb3 »

dathinab wrote: post #34
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

btw. this > ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture is highly dehumanizing language you normally find only and autocratic regimes ruled by force and despotism instead of law if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm you alarm bells should ring in overdrive historically speaking language like this has pretty reliably an indicator of a country going to commit mass mur…

So what about "ICEBlock is an app that people being in the US illegally use to evade capture"?

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

dboreham wrote: post #39
Aurornis wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, she also admits to the journalist that she is a ‘minority shareholder’ in the app development company. That’s a lot more than a footnote. If the app development company owned the app and she had ownership in the app development company, there’s no way to argue she didn’t have an interest in the app. Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer and continue to keep t…

> Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer Really? So if my wife works for Google and I work for Facebook, she has to get me to quit Facebook? Or if my wife works for Google and I found a start up making a search app, then she has to get me to wind up my start up?

More like - if your wife works for Facebook and also owns a slice of twitter. You are really reaching here

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by pstuart »

dathinab wrote: post #30
pstuart wrote: post #10

Where all all the "Free Speech Absolutists" on this?

you mean the "I must have the right to harass people online" people? The "someone fact checking my political propaganda is not okay" people? Or like the "objective facts are not neutral because they they imply I'm probably fascist when spreading fascist leaning propaganda" people?

The same people downvoting my comment and supporting comments, yes.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by cogman10 »

aqme28 wrote: post #21
pessimizer wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Surveilling the police obviously enables crime, and in this case is specifically intended to enable crime. Sure, some kinds of crime would be easier when we can track the police. However, crime caused by police is a real threat to people and they are right to be worried. We don't want a world where the people with the badge and the gun cannot be held accountable at all.

And, let's be super clear, there is no "crime" that can be committed by knowing the location of ICE agents, particularly in the middle of a city.

ICE's jurisdiction is specifically over immigration and border control. They aren't going to stop a robbery, murder, or theft. They won't save someone from a kidnapping. The extent of their legal power is to terrorize undocumented individuals.

In fact, this ICE crackdown is very likely to make everyone less safe. Someone who's undocumented or, frankly, just a latino will need to think twice before they ever want to interact with any police force. That means less witnesses to crimes, less reports of crimes, less cooperation to stop crime. They won't want to engage in the justice system and in some cases might end up getting violent for fear of being sent to a sweltering hot torture tent in florida for the crime of speeding.

And, when there's a protection vacuum, what inevitably happens? People turn to gangs for security and justice. So many violent groups started because the Justice system decided they didn't need justice.

I know and have known undocumented workers that have lived in the US for decades as valued community members. By and large these are not dangerous people and they should get citizenship.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by Spooky23 »

dboreham wrote: post #39
Aurornis wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, she also admits to the journalist that she is a ‘minority shareholder’ in the app development company. That’s a lot more than a footnote. If the app development company owned the app and she had ownership in the app development company, there’s no way to argue she didn’t have an interest in the app. Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer and continue to keep t…

> Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer Really? So if my wife works for Google and I work for Facebook, she has to get me to quit Facebook? Or if my wife works for Google and I found a start up making a search app, then she has to get me to wind up my start up?

If you work for the government you have to disclose outside activity.

This administration sucks, but being a shareholder isn’t the same as your spouse just working on a project. She should have resigned a long time ago.

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