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Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by perihelions »

mingus88 wrote: post #28
Terr_ wrote: post #8

In addition to the obvious problems of the US government illegally firing one family-member solely to punish a different family-member's constitutionally-protected free-speech... I'd also highlight these aren't even the same part of the federal government. ICE is under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), whereas she is/was employed as a forensic accountant at the Department of Justice (DOJ). To make an throw-b…

You sound surprised? The administration has been purging non-loyalists since January. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start firing anyone who even downloaded the app.

The FBI's literally putting employees under polygraphs to purge non-MAGA loyalists.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/fbi-polygraph...

> "Some senior officials who have taken the test have been asked whether they said anything negative about the F.B.I. director, Kash Patel."

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by heyoni »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #18
Terr_ wrote: post #8

In addition to the obvious problems of the US government illegally firing one family-member solely to punish a different family-member's constitutionally-protected free-speech... I'd also highlight these aren't even the same part of the federal government. ICE is under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), whereas she is/was employed as a forensic accountant at the Department of Justice (DOJ). To make an throw-b…

Not a different person "discovered she has a sizable interest in All U Chart, Inc., the company that holds the IP for ICEBlock" I'm not sure what hen's employee contract reads. There are some limitations on US government employees engaging in political action though (Hatch act). Perhaps hen sent a text relating to All U during work hours?

Since when is dissemination of publicly facing information considered political action under the Hatch Act? The latter requires the person to use their influence or be on duty for it to count. The raids being reported by the app aren’t using insider information, they’re in progress and out in the open.

This situation is pretty clear cut. The administration isn’t being coy about purging anyone they think might be less than blindly loyal.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by foobarchu »

mingus88 wrote: post #28
Terr_ wrote: post #8

In addition to the obvious problems of the US government illegally firing one family-member solely to punish a different family-member's constitutionally-protected free-speech... I'd also highlight these aren't even the same part of the federal government. ICE is under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), whereas she is/was employed as a forensic accountant at the Department of Justice (DOJ). To make an throw-b…

You sound surprised? The administration has been purging non-loyalists since January. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start firing anyone who even downloaded the app.

I don't think anyone is surprised about this, but it's still important to make a big stink. As soon as we go quiet and stop caring, they win.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by dathinab »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #19

ICE Speak: - ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture - while endangering the lives of ICE officers - by disclosing their location. - This DOJ will not tolerate threats against law enforcement or law enforcement officers." Reality speak: - ICEBlock is an app used by citizens who reasonably want to 1) be aware of what their government does 2) provide the only known oversight of ICE agents 3) avoid a…

btw. this

> ICEBlock is an app that illegal aliens use to evade capture

is highly dehumanizing language you normally find only and autocratic regimes ruled by force and despotism instead of law

if you read that in you country and it's not a exception but the now norm you alarm bells should ring in overdrive

historically speaking language like this has pretty reliably an indicator of a country going to commit mass murder (lets hope it doesn't come to this)

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by shkkmo »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #18
Terr_ wrote: post #8

In addition to the obvious problems of the US government illegally firing one family-member solely to punish a different family-member's constitutionally-protected free-speech... I'd also highlight these aren't even the same part of the federal government. ICE is under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), whereas she is/was employed as a forensic accountant at the Department of Justice (DOJ). To make an throw-b…

Not a different person "discovered she has a sizable interest in All U Chart, Inc., the company that holds the IP for ICEBlock" I'm not sure what hen's employee contract reads. There are some limitations on US government employees engaging in political action though (Hatch act). Perhaps hen sent a text relating to All U during work hours?

AFAIK, ownership interest in a company doesn't violate any of the Hatch restrictions, even on the "further restricted" category of employees. So unless she took specific political actions while on the job, using her authority, or using federal resources, this is not a Hatch violation.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by Aurornis »

docdeek wrote: post #26

There’s a bit more context in this article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bondi-takes-revenge-fami... According to this article, she self-reported to the DOJ ("Feinstein says that she took it upon herself to inform the DOJ of her relationship with Aaron after the backlash first kicked off more than three weeks ago.”). The people from the DOJ who contacted her initially were looking into ethical issues ("Within…

> However, she also admits to the journalist that she is a ‘minority shareholder’ in the app development company.

That’s a lot more than a footnote. If the app development company owned the app and she had ownership in the app development company, there’s no way to argue she didn’t have an interest in the app.

Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer and continue to keep their job. You have to be divested from one or the other. Due to the marriage, there likely any way to divest from the app unless her husband also divested from it. Even then, the damage was done.

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by golergka »

docdeek wrote: post #26

There’s a bit more context in this article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bondi-takes-revenge-fami... According to this article, she self-reported to the DOJ ("Feinstein says that she took it upon herself to inform the DOJ of her relationship with Aaron after the backlash first kicked off more than three weeks ago.”). The people from the DOJ who contacted her initially were looking into ethical issues ("Within…

> she is a ‘minority shareholder’ in the app development company

Let's suppose this means she is directly linked to this anti-ICE app, profits from it (if it even has any revenue?) and is interested in the apps success. Does it mean that she has ethical conflict with her DOJ position?

Re: Wife of ICEBlock app founder speaks out after DOJ fires her

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Post by dboreham »

Aurornis wrote: post #36
docdeek wrote: post #26

There’s a bit more context in this article: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bondi-takes-revenge-fami... According to this article, she self-reported to the DOJ ("Feinstein says that she took it upon herself to inform the DOJ of her relationship with Aaron after the backlash first kicked off more than three weeks ago.”). The people from the DOJ who contacted her initially were looking into ethical issues ("Within…

> However, she also admits to the journalist that she is a ‘minority shareholder’ in the app development company. That’s a lot more than a footnote. If the app development company owned the app and she had ownership in the app development company, there’s no way to argue she didn’t have an interest in the app. Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer and continue to keep t…

> Nobody can expect to have a side interest in an app that works against their employer

Really? So if my wife works for Google and I work for Facebook, she has to get me to quit Facebook? Or if my wife works for Google and I found a start up making a search app, then she has to get me to wind up my start up?

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