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What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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Come on, you only ever stand to lose half your resources. Also you’re interacting with the wrong kinda lady my friend.

(Half your assets at the time of divorce plus child support and alimony) can easily be more than (all of your assets at the time of your wedding)

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post #142

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Paying someone to watch your children full time so that you can do your full time job is inherently classist. Who takes care of the nannies kids? The solution to "kids are expensive" being to just pay someone lower class to do it is absurd. > You can also have the nanny watch other kids in the neighborhood if you only have 1 kid. You're re-inventing daycare here.

> Who takes care of the nannies kids? Nannies take multiple children (up to 4 here in France) at the same time. So he/she can take his/her own.

Also they only need to be nannied for a couple years, so there's like 48-40 other years of their lives where they can spend the bulk of their focus on the kid they're nannying instead of their own.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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Few things that should be noted: women at 25+ have more or less the same children they had 60 years ago.

It's teenage and very young women virtually not having kids anymore.

Thus, the narrative that in order to stop population shrinking we have to go back to some past state is false. We shouldn't promote teenage and very young women pregnancies, and we should support older women and men having child at later stage at higher rates than previously during humanity.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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No - being a mom and having to work full time sucks. Being a full time mom probably isn't that bad.

If you read forums of new parents (e.g. parenting subreddits), the common consensus is that being a stay at home parent is far harder than a job.

Parenting subreddits have alot of the most extreme situations.

I have a child, alot of what I read on these internet groups isn't relatable.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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My anecdotal experience, which illustrates how changing societal norms may be contributing. Around 1960, my grandmother scandalously fell pregnant with my mother in her late teens. The child was adopted out - well, not out - in. To her own grandmother, to be raised as a "younger sister" to her own mother. Around 1980, my mother scandalously fell pregnant with me, in her late teens. Despite family disapproval, the chi…

Oh, I’m sure some “anecdotal” stories will come up, painting a perfect picture of the “good old days” — without calling them that, of course. Here's one then:

Take my great-grandfather, for example. 56, falls head over heels for a 14-year-old girl from church, and boom — 30 days later, they’re married. 8 months later, my grandfather’s born. They stayed married for 50 years. My grandmother was 16 when she married my 47-year-old grandfather after a chance meeting in the woods, and, guess what, smooth pregnancy again. My parents? Same song, different verse. Now, fast forward to today: I broke up with my girlfriend (late 30s, early 40s) because we wanted kids, but couldn’t conceive — and back then when were were younger and when we could, I couldn’t afford it. See, back then, the older man was not only virile but also financially set, while the young woman could pop out babies at the drop of pants.

Yeah, those “good old days” sound amazing. Make World Pregnant Again.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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post #301

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> Women aren't able to attract the mates they want Women set expectation bar so high, only top 5% of men meet.

In 20 years, with more women than men going to college, a lot of women aren’t going to find partners if they want someone that matched or exceeds their education level.

There have been more women than men in college for 40 years — and this is already a problem, because women don’t date down.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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What we need are 25/30+ year-olds who are completely at ease with sex, who have no hang-ups, and who know how to form strong relationships because they’ve been doing it and having sex freely since they were teenagers.

Instead, we have a generation of adults of parenting age who are deeply uncomfortable with sex and emotionally unskilled in relationships. And that’s a big part of the problem. I’m saying a large swathe of the population is sexually dysfunctional? Yes, I am.

On public forums like Reddit, I can ask questions about all sorts of topics and get a range of responses. But if I’m a young person asking about sex, the answers are often shaped by politics and public health messaging. Behind the scenes, there’s a strong influence from health authorities, and the responses tend to follow a standard script focused on fear, safety, and official ideas about what sex and relationships must be, rather than letting young people figure things out for themselves.

What young people really need is encouragement to form whatever kinds of relationships they want, whether casual or serious, and to have sex and enjoy it. If you support them in that, they’ll do it naturally. Cautions against early pregnancy can be made gently and are no different to other important non-sexual cautions.

Young people need space to figure out their sex lives for themselves, without someone watching over them, especially not a public health voice pushing out patronizing or useless messaging.

Then, and only then, will we grow a generation of mindful and intentional baby-makers.

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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I find the repeated comments of how much parenting 'sucks' and how much childbearing 'sucks' to be distasteful. It has been the single most incredible experience I've had (5 times over). I feel like, primarily, the reason why our society isn't having children is because of a growing selfishness and entitlement; which happens to be the very thing that Rome was suffering from when their society was collapsing too. No,…

Rome was a slave state, its collapse had nothing to do with selfishness and entitlement. That’s what got them their empire in the th3 first place!

Re: What caused the 'baby boom'? What would it take to have another?

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Underrated comment right here. When the baseline belief in society goes from “make it work” to “better to end the pregnancy” it shouldn’t be surprising that overall the number of birth goes way down.

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He hasn't said that, but he's pointing out, correctly, that if you want to go to past numbers, you need to increase teenage and very young women having children.

Or, by extension, promote older women having babies at rates they never had.

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