Seems like they lost power? https://x.com/georgiameloniii/status/1933091545248641248
Going OT: why a parody account of Italian PM is tweeting a video about an airplane accident in India? Really weird
Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
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Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
because painting an entire neighborhood in flammable fluid isn't safe... if it doesn't catch fire it'll corrode everything it touches. most planes can't dump fuel anymore. if it's a serious enough emergency you land overweight. If it's not then you fly long enough to burn it off and land below max landing weight.
> most planes can't dump fuel anymore. if it's a serious enough emergency you land overweight. When fuel is dumped, it's at high altitude where it just evaporates. Short haul jets can't do it, but their max takeoff weight is around their max landing weight, so it's fine. For long haul, it's not the same.
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
because painting an entire neighborhood in flammable fluid isn't safe... if it doesn't catch fire it'll corrode everything it touches. most planes can't dump fuel anymore. if it's a serious enough emergency you land overweight. If it's not then you fly long enough to burn it off and land below max landing weight.
> most planes can't dump fuel anymore. if it's a serious enough emergency you land overweight. When fuel is dumped, it's at high altitude where it just evaporates. Short haul jets can't do it, but their max takeoff weight is around their max landing weight, so it's fine. For long haul, it's not the same.
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#234Gentle tip from a lifelong aviation enthusiast: wait one week before reading on causation. Exposing yourself to first-week speculation isn’t just unproductive, it’s often counterproductive since the actual findings can rhyme with the false speculation closely enough that you wind up muddling the two in your mind.
Gentle tip from a lifelong speculation enthusiast: if speculating now is fun for you don't let party poopers stop you.
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#235Baffling tragedy, again. Clear skies, no LiveATC but reports of single Mayday call, gear out but no flaps and no control inputs visible in the grainy video. Something has to go really catastrophically wrong with a modern jetliner for that to happen, like the very dense flock of birds in Korea with the 737 a couple of months back. The very short intersection takeoff seems like a good hint (and terrible practice), but…
That is normal and standard procedure if you're having issues lifting the plane, because retracting the gear means _increasing_ drag for a crucial 10/15 seconds as the doors open and thus slowing the plane further.
> but no flaps and no control inputs visible
Standard Dreamliner operating procedure, you take off at flaps 10 or 5, they are barely visible from the outside, see many random videos of 787s takeoffs on Youtube like this:
Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also possible to just not read news altogether.
I don't recommend this; instead, I recommend reading factual reporting, not 'analysis' which often comes with inherent political bent/bias.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
And there were 7 in one year during 2018 and 2019. Looking through the chart you linked, averages around 3 per year. Considering how many planes are currently in the sky at this very moment, this is a wildly useless statistic used to cause fear and panic.
Post-covid, aren't there considerably fewer planes in the skies? When i look up, the skies seem remarkably empty, compared to previously.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't recommend this; instead, I recommend reading factual reporting, not 'analysis' which often comes with inherent political bent/bias.
Why? I went news cold turkey about 6 years ago and I'm very happy with that decision.
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#239Re: Air India flight to London crashes in Ahmedabad with more than 240 onboard
#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? I went news cold turkey about 6 years ago and I'm very happy with that decision.
Why? Because I personally believe those who are not regularly informed are exacerbating the problem in why the electorate makes the decisions it does.