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OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by xboxnolifes »

5Qn8mNbc2FNCiVV wrote: post #278
34679 wrote: post #226

I'd like to offer a cautionary tale that involves my experience after seeing this post. First, I tried enabling o3 via OpenRouter since I have credits with them already. I was met with the following: "OpenAI requires bringing your own API key to use o3 over the API. Set up here: https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations " So I decided I would buy some API credits with my OpenAI account. I ponied up $20 and started…

This feels eerily similar to a post I've read a within the last month. Either I'm having a deja vu, it's a coincidence that the same exact story is mentioned or theres something else going on

This is just the process for OpenAI. It's the same process I went through as well.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by conradev »

stavros wrote: post #439
olalonde wrote: post #406

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Why? It seems counterproductive given OpenAI's mission statement: "We are building safe and beneficial AGI, but will also consider our mission fulfilled if our work aids others to achieve this outcome."

Because OpenAI's actual mission statement is "money, and lots of it".

Yeah. I think they need money to deliver AGI

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by SheinH »

pembrook wrote: post #436
leetrout wrote: post #243

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I actually contacted the California AG to get a refund from another AI company after they failed to refund me. The AG office followed up and I got my refund. Worth my time to file because we should stop letting companies get away with this stuff where they show up with more requirements after paying. Separately they also do not need my phone number after having my name, address and credit card. Has anyone got info on…

Source: have dealt with fraud at scale before. Phone number is the only way to reliably stop MOST abuse on a freemium product that doesn't require payment/identity verification upfront. You can easily block VOIP numbers and ensure the person connected to this number is paying for an actual phone plan, which cuts down dramatically on bogus accounts. Hence why even Facebook requires a unique, non-VOIP phone number to c…

The discussion wasn't about freemium products though. Someone mentioned that they paid 20 bucks for OpenAI's API already and then they were asked for more verification.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by KomoD »

azinman2 wrote: post #429
hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #427

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They may not sell ads. They may still buy data from ad companies and store credit cards, etc. Many of them link users based on phone number.

But to do what with api users? Most api users won’t be individuals…

I bet there's way more individuals than companies that use the API

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by wut42 »

7bit wrote: post #393
TiredOfLife wrote: post #376

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https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/search?q=id

That's not a source and it is not my responsibility to backup the claims you made. That is yours. If you don't have any sources, and admit to just saying things that are not probable, I can also live with that.

Hetzner is famously notorious for this, but not enough for publications to pick up this. So by your definitions, YEARS of people talking about their experiences with this is nothing?

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Post by gloosx »

tethys wrote: post #382
gloosx wrote: post #374

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still no real human is involved, as they mention their verification is automated and prohabilistic — which is especially funny to hear in context of verification. Im pretty sure even a kid can go around it, e.g. on the video showing a photo of a person holding his passport which you can find online.

No. You have to turn your head, and stuff. Also, even if this would work, they allow only one verification per person per 90 days.

>one verification per person per 90 days.

this is absurd, how do they define "person"? On the internet I can be another person from another country in a minute, another minute I will be a different person from a different country.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by gloosx »

sneak wrote: post #475
gloosx wrote: post #375

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App? So you cannot verify without a mobile phone?

You can’t sign up in the first place without a mobile phone number. They require a phone number and block VoIP services.

Real mobile phone number to receive a code is 10¢. Maybe a bit more, but certainly not more than a dollar.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by gloosx »

_joel wrote: post #396
gloosx wrote: post #374

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still no real human is involved, as they mention their verification is automated and prohabilistic — which is especially funny to hear in context of verification. Im pretty sure even a kid can go around it, e.g. on the video showing a photo of a person holding his passport which you can find online.

No, that's not how it works.

So your saying it's not just feeding your video to the AI model and blindly trusting it's outcome? Any evidence how it works then?

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Post by ethbr1 »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #445
azinman2 wrote: post #332

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OpenAI doesn’t (currently) sell ads. I really cannot see a world where they’re wanting to sell ads to their API users only? It’s not like you need a phone number to use ChatGPT. To me the obvious example is fraud/abuse protection.

You're thinking ads are to advertise products. Ads are to modify behavior to make you more likely to buy products. ChatGPT has the capacity to modify behavior more subtly than any advertising ever devised. Aggregating knowledge on the person on the other end of the line is key in knowing how to nudge them toward the target behavior. (Note this target behavior may be how to vote in an election, or how to feel about va…

> Aggregating knowledge on the person on the other end of the line is key in knowing how to nudge them toward the target behavior.

It also, as Google learned, enables you to increase your revenue per placement. Advertisers will pay more for placement with their desired audience.

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