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OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Gemini doesn't give you reasoning via API though, at least as far as I'm aware.

If by reasoning you mean showing CoT, Gemini and OA are the same in this regard - neither provides it, not through the UI nor through the API. The "summaries" both provide have zero value and should be treated as non-existent. Anthropic exposes reasoning, which has become a big reason to use them for reasoning tasks over the other two despite their pricing. Rather ironic when the other two have been pushing reasoning…

Google exposes their reasoning. You can use their new gemini python sdk to get thought traces.

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There is an ISO standard for digital ID, the same one used by the TSA, and it’s coming to the web soon! Human verification is going to continue to grow in importance.

which standard is that?

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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post #296

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Bit strange to see such new accounts already priming everyone to think this is acceptable and normal, which it isn't, hence OA having started doing this months ago and still not a single other provider has it, despite offering just as powerful models. It's not like Google and Anthropic have launched their own Worldcoin either.

Especially what does it have to do with that "these models are getting more powerful"?

Basically the earmark of a narrative OpenAI loves to push covertly, and often overtly. I wouldn't be shocked if these are bots.

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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>ID Check Just send them a random passport photo from the Internet, what's the deal? Probably they are just vibe-verifying the photo with "Is it legit passport?" prompt anyways.

I think modern face verification has moved on, it's been video in all my encounters.

still no real human is involved, as they mention their verification is automated and prohabilistic — which is especially funny to hear in context of verification. Im pretty sure even a kid can go around it, e.g. on the video showing a photo of a person holding his passport which you can find online.

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>ID Check Just send them a random passport photo from the Internet, what's the deal? Probably they are just vibe-verifying the photo with "Is it legit passport?" prompt anyways.

It requires video and an app. They are collecting facial biometrics.

App? So you cannot verify without a mobile phone?

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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post #355

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There are stories about e.g. Hetzner requiring all sorts of data from people who want to open/verify accounts so perhaps not. Might just be an anti “money laundering” thing. Especially if the credit card company ends up refunding everything..

What stories? Can you back up that claim with some sources please?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hetzner/search?q=id

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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post #372

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There is an ISO standard for digital ID, the same one used by the TSA, and it’s coming to the web soon! Human verification is going to continue to grow in importance.

which standard is that?

https://www.aamva.org/publications-news/aamva-news/aamva-spe...

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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post #272

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> which, after using it, fair! It found a zero day Source?

Recently, Sean Heelan wrote a post "How I used o3 to find CVE-2025-37899, a remote zeroday vulnerability in the Linux kernel’s SMB implementation". It might be what they are referring to. Link: https://sean.heelan.io/2025/05/22/how-i-used-o3-to-find-cve-...

Yep, that’s the one!

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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Is it o3 (low), o3 (medium) or o3 (high)? Different model names have crept into the various benchmarks over the last few months.

o3 is a model, and reasoning effort (high/medium/low) is a parameter that goes into the model. o3 pro is a different thing - it’s not just o3 with maximum remaining effort.

Could someone there maybe possibly use, oh I dunno, ChatGPT and come up with some better product names?

Re: OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%

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post #226

I'd like to offer a cautionary tale that involves my experience after seeing this post. First, I tried enabling o3 via OpenRouter since I have credits with them already. I was met with the following: "OpenAI requires bringing your own API key to use o3 over the API. Set up here: https://openrouter.ai/settings/integrations " So I decided I would buy some API credits with my OpenAI account. I ponied up $20 and started…

I also am using OpenRouter because OpenAI isn't a great fit for me. I also stopped using OpenAI because they expire your API credits even if you don't use them. Yeah, it's only $10, but I'm not spending another dime with them.

I wonder if they do this everywhere, in certain jurisdictions this is illegal.
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