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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by alaxhn »

ModernMech wrote: post #381
alaxhn wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the hiring process for these institutions, until recently you had to write a "Diversity Statement" which was evaluated as part of the hiring process. This was an attempt to keep people with the "wrong ideas" out of the hiring pool. Similarly the H1B process asks you a long list of questions that you are required to answer "correctly" in order to be admitted. If you fail, you are kicked out. I think the question is…

The point of a diversity statement for the candidate to ruminate on their teaching practices with respect to a diverse classroom, which is a fact of the job rather than a political or ideological matter. Most people in the course of their job do not closely work with people of diverse backgrounds. People who work at universities will work with people of all backgrounds and abilities. It’s not just about race or gende…

To a gun advocate the point of a concealed carry would be self defense which is a reality of living in certain areas rather than a political or ideological matter. Nevertheless it is ok for a political parties to have opinions about whether concealed carry is right or wrong and some would say that "civilized" countries have made gun ownership very difficult because the pros may outweigh the cons.

Likewise the right does not agree with you that the diversity statement is a positive and non-ideological contribution to the hiring process and if your response is going to be "this is not up for discussion because it is not a political or ideological matter" well... they are going to disagree with you and if they are in charge might respond by cutting funding and support for your institution. That's just a reality of living in a democracy.

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #353
lupusreal wrote: post #139

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>The DHS letter to Harvard specifically says that this is because Harvard's campus has been "hostile to Jews" and "promotes pro-Hamas sympathies". I've seen no evidence that they are not. So much for inclusion and acceptance from one of the nations leading progressive institutions.

far be it from me to defend harvard but it's on the accuser to provide positive evidence for their claim, not the defendant to provide negative evidence against the claim.

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Post by j_maffe »

lurk2 wrote: post #456
JCattheATM wrote: post #422

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It boggles my mind that anyone with, apparently and allegedly, such a high tier education, would be against the actions Harvard has been taking this year. They are literally just fighting for basic academic freedoms.

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To have international students be part of the university and contributing to its research?

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Post by jaoane »

jorblumesea wrote: post #455
input_sh wrote: post #442

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Even more specific: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

neo-fascism because eggs were expensive, nice job American voters.

It's not surprising that people chose being able to afford food over intellectualism.

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Post by input_sh »

Spivak wrote: post #295
woggy wrote: post #266

I don't see the US surviving the Trump administration.

We basically get two chances if you want to follow the normal procedure. Swing congress during the midterms and lock him up for the remainder of his term and or elect a democrat in four years who will tear up the stack of executive orders and make the rounds apologizing to everyone.

There are many autocrats around the world, look up what happened to free elections after they came into power.

Spoiler alert: they quickly deteriorate and the next 3-4 cycles become far less free than the election cycle that put them into power.

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Post by JohnMakin »

scandox wrote: post #460
JohnMakin wrote: post #378

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Protesting the actions of the Israeli government is not anti-semitic.

I didn't say he was antisemitic.

I didn't say you said he was. But you did say:

> It is very clear that the issue of the protests is being used by an American government to pursue a much broader agenda. Israel and antisemitism are merely the most convenient instrument.

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