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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by ty6853 »

dragontamer wrote: post #76
more_corn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean Harvard will fight back in court. The courts are last bastion. Once the executive branch stops following what the courts order the checks and balances are gone.

How is the Supreme Court's 9-0 decision in favor of returning Garcia working out? The courts have been beaten months ago. We are well into crazy train territory.

Lol Rubio told Xinis on national TV he was intentionally stonewalling any information to her, and she took it like a bitch and just kept rolling with keeping most their 'secrets' under seal (despite earlier talking big game of exposing them to sunlight).

The courts aren't even trying, they could order someone into contempt, but they won't.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by intermerda »

baggachipz wrote: post #77
chrisandchris wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes you sign up for things, because the advertisment did look great. But then, at one point, you want to cancel that subscription.

If that's the case, you're an easily-duped sucker of a customer and deserve to lose your money.

But you're not allowed to call them low-informed, uneducated, or any slightly negative/offensive qualifier. Otherwise you get the "this is why Trump won" lecture.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by vaidhy »

miffel wrote: post #98
periodjet wrote: post #88

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Well if it was a decision made by Harvard after serious deliberation and years of prep one could try to argue in good faith about the possible positive effects. Since this seems to be retaliation by the current admin due to Harvard's resistance to turning over vast amounts of records on intl. students... I think people are being less optimistic. I am curious, what do you think is beneficial about this? Please feel fr…

Maybe they think Harvard will replace international students with american ones? Poor foreign workers are taking away our jobs, and rich foreign students are taking away our education argument??

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Post by philip1209 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #106
philip1209 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard University of Illinois bought a policy to protect against losing cash tuitions from Chinese grad students. Perhaps other universities have done the same.

I think it is more undergrads than grads that pay money, but I think that depends on the field. For a physics PhD for instance at Cornell you usually get paid to teach your first two years and if all goes right do your actual research on a grant. In my case the prof had written a grant for the work I wanted to do which didn't get funded, I spent a summer thinking about the problem which helped us come back with a gre…

MBAs are a cash cow

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Post by blooalien »

mdhb wrote: post #103
chrisandchris wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes you sign up for things, because the advertisment did look great. But then, at one point, you want to cancel that subscription.

Lots and lots of people accurately predicted this multiple years out at this point. They were continually dismissed as alarmists by supposedly “serious people”.

~raises hand~ Been there, Done that...

(Been ridiculed for it. Still get ridiculed for pointing out the current reality of it, with or without the additional "I told you so!" included.)

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by scoofy »

dragontamer wrote: post #70
scoofy wrote: post #8

If you are a Republican and didn’t sign up for this, can you please write your representatives about impeachment? This is getting ridiculous. We’d be much better off with a president Vance.

> We’d be much better off with a president Vance. Vance literally defended the eating cats and dogs lie during the debate. The entire fucking point of this platform is to fuck the immigrants, legal or otherwise. Or is this actually a surprise to anyone with half a brain?

Donald Trump is genuinely an idiot and deeply and obviously corrupt. I don’t like Vance, I’m still going to be mad at his agenda, but he’s generally intelligent. He’s not going to run the country into the ground because he doesn’t understand how fixed income securities work or give away national security to fly in an obviously bugged luxury plane for funsies.

At the end of the day, there are different levels of terrible things that can happen to us, and right now we are staring down multi-generational damage to our country.

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Post by lupusreal »

neilv wrote: post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Post by legitster »

Anyone who thinks they are immune or on the "good side" of this political movement is naive. Harvard has cranked out plenty of powerful conservatives, but it doesn't matter because their "crime" is that they have hurt the current administration's feelings. This is going well beyond one party winning - this is a cult of personality.

History is repeating itself as a farce. It's not wild speculation to guess what might happen if these actions continue unchecked. It's education now, but it will be lawyers and judges next, and after that it will be leaders of tech and business. Anyone who brokers power.

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