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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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post #48

So much for "law and order" - this is about sycophancy toward an authoritarian who chooses his own rules.

That's what "conservatives" mean by "law and order". You obey them so they can put you in your place. They want to impose upon the rest of us, not be imposed upon.

AKA Wilhoit's Law

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

#152

that's underselling it - they're also making it so every single existing interrnational student has to leave the US very soon, and in the meantime can be kidnapped by ICE.

They can (try and) transfer to another college / university.

But, I suspect, if suddenly all international students transferred to MIT, the administration would simply do the same to MIT. So it would become one big game of whack-a-mole, and the smaller players would just bend over to the rules.

International students are cash cows for some institutions. They wouldn't dare to have that cow put down.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

#153
post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

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Though I would not have guessed, it seems more about China:

"Harvard’s leadership has created an unsafe campus environment by permitting anti-American, pro-terrorist agitators to harass and physically assault individuals, including many Jewish students, and otherwise obstruct its once-venerable learning environment. Many of these agitators are foreign students. Harvard’s leadership further facilitated, and engaged in coordinated activity with the CCP, including hosting and training members of a CCP paramilitary group complicit in the Uyghur genocide."

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/05/22/harvard-university-loses...

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

#155
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The actual letter explains they can regain status by ratting out their students. It will quietly be done, although likely in a way that make it look as if Harvard hasn't.

> The actual letter explains they can regain status by ratting out their students. Trump's history has shown that if you cave into his demands, he doesn't leave you alone—instead he starts demanding even more, since he knows you'll fold.

Classic schoolyard bully behavior.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

#156
post #122
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or 8+ years

He will already have serves his second (and therefore last) term, or what do you mean?

Probably this:

https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

#157
post #122
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or 8+ years

He will already have serves his second (and therefore last) term, or what do you mean?

Trump has repeatedly asserted he wants to run for a "third term" and his base worship him.

His electorate's beliefs are whatever he tells them they are. The same is true for the Republican Party. Trump is effectively free to ignore the constitution without consequence.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

#158
post #89

Can someone ELI5 the power networks involved here? I didn't expect to see Harvard getting smacked around or humiliated like this. Between Harvard, Yale, and possibly a few other schools, I thought they had influence throughout government. And that key figures in government were interested in maintaining and benefiting from that influence. And a lot of that influence seemed aligned with national interests. (For exampl…

The Project 2025 people and the Yarvinists agree that elite universities like Harvard are spreading the “woke mind virus” and must be destroyed. They consider their movements a revolution, not an iteration on the status quo.

Project 2025 is about uneducated people now having power and trying to stop other people from becoming educated
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