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Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Trump is acting in the manner of all previous authoritarians: What is good for him is what's good for the country and the laws that align with this are proper, and those that do not will be ignored or changed where possible. The rule of law is anathema to authoritarians, and hence why they detest it. As individuals we might even feel the same about some laws. But in totality, the rule of , law and not by law is the f…

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Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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If you are a Republican, you DID sign up for this. None of this has been kept secret.

Sometimes you sign up for things, because the advertisment did look great. But then, at one point, you want to cancel that subscription.

And yet some have held that subscription for years..

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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The actual letter explains they can regain status by ratting out their students. It will quietly be done, although likely in a way that make it look as if Harvard hasn't.

Maybe, but I doubt it. Trump is not a mafia boss - time after time he showed that his words cannot be trusted. If Harvard makes a concession, there's no guarantee that Trump will "forgive" it. Look how China is dealing with Trump. Trump announces tariffs, China returns Boeing planes, tariffs somehow comes down.

As a sovereign nation, China is in a somewhat different position than Harvard which is subject to US law.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Checks and balances are just words. So yes, they can and will do everything they want.

I mean Harvard will fight back in court. The courts are last bastion. Once the executive branch stops following what the courts order the checks and balances are gone.

How is the Supreme Court's 9-0 decision in favor of returning Garcia working out?

The courts have been beaten months ago. We are well into crazy train territory.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are a Republican, you DID sign up for this. None of this has been kept secret.

Sometimes you sign up for things, because the advertisment did look great. But then, at one point, you want to cancel that subscription.

If that's the case, you're an easily-duped sucker of a customer and deserve to lose your money.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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If they can do this to Harvard, what hope do other universities have?

Most the universities will do the thing asked in order to re-instate their student visa certification. i.e. provide intel needed to deport any students that they believe have opinions that are not in the interest of national security. Most likely Harvard will try to fight it in court and then give in if they lose. It's not likely we see the future decertification continue into the academic year.

> they believe have opinions that are not in the interest of national security

So people committing thought crimes huh?

This is the US in 2025 - indefinitely imprisoning people without any actual charges for having opinions the current administration doesn't like.

Re: Trump administration halts Harvard's ability to enroll international students

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If they can do this to Harvard, what hope do other universities have?

They’re trying to make an example of Harvard so they don’t need to force anyone else to tow the line. Other universities will self censor.

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