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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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What do you mean reinstate? The country was founded by the descendants of people who for the most part hated Catholicism.

Yes, but... the Spanish reached present-day New Mexico before the English reached present-day New England.

Sure, but the Spanish colonization had virtually no impact on the ethnic, political, or religious development of the United States other than some water and land rights in the Southwest.

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Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

Does that mean a president could be knighted, as long as it's a queen or princess doing the knighting?

Quick googling on honorary knighthood:

> [Honorary knighthoods] are a way for the UK to recognize the achievements of individuals who are not UK citizens. They are awarded on the advice of the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and are conferred by the Crown.

> In the US, accepting a title of nobility from a foreign state is prohibited without the consent of Congress. However, this prohibition is different from accepting an honorary knighthood, which is more of a recognition or award rather than a title of nobility.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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I strongly believe the American choice was a strategic decision made by a group of highly intelligent individuals.

Is it possible that this move is to reinstate Catholicism in the United States, given that Evangelicals appear to be gaining influence?

Same thought could have factored in Francis' conclave for LA, but % of Catholics continued to fall.

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Apparently heads of foreign states are exempt.

What's your source on that, at least in the case when the head of the foreign state also remains a US citizen? There's also the interesting question of whether he will remain a US citizen after all, or whether taking the office of pope will count as him relinquishing US citizenship under INA §349(a)(4): https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/L... In the latter case, the tax question would not aris…

I put no such assumptions on this. If Trump gets angry with His Holiness, Trump will probably have Little Marco revoke the Pope’s citizenship.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Will he be taxed on his foreign Papal salary? Or will he forego the salary , like Francis did?

Apparently Popes don't receive a salary, all expenses are covered by the church. Neither is there a retirement package since it's a job for life.

I couldn't imagine a Pope applying for a pay raise. Or rather, to whom would the Pope got to get a pay raise ... hm ;)

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I still want to see someone tell a Canadian that the entirety of the Western Hemisphere's land is America, making the Canadian an American. My money's on the Canadian taking him down in the first round with a right hook.

I will do one better and call any Québécois reading this a Latin American.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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The prevailing wisdom has been proven wrong on this occasion. He is very much a continuation of Francis's school of thought in spite of the "fat Pope thin Pope" wisdom, and he is an American who has been elected Pope, which was almost unthinkable because of America's economic, political, and mass media domination of the western world. Very unexpected

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South American yes. Not American which coqouially means born and raised in the United States. Strictly speaking pope Francis was South American.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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From what I read, the new pope is much like Francis on human rights and political topics, but a bit more conservative about church doctrine. Perhaps it's to have a counterpoint to Trump in America, to show that not all American-born leaders are trash? Time will tell, I suppose.

I wouldn't presume Prevost is more doctrinally conservative than Francis, just because Francis wasn't as liberal as popularly claimed. Rather, American conservative bishops attempted to paint Francis as doctrinally liberal as part of their rhetorical strategy to attack Francis' non-doctrinal liberalism (e.g. on high-profile but non-doctrinal matters related to discipline, liturgy, etc). Similarly, progressive activis…

Thanks, I am not that informed, I don’t know why I even commented.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Sounds like an amazing opportunity for insider trading

I wouldn't be shocked if that's one of the reasons why they sequester

There was a horrendous problem with gambling on the election at one point. I believe the most recent episode of "Tasting History with Max Miller" covers this.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Great symbol was - every cardinal standing on balconies with/besides him. No media covered / decoded what that gesture signifies.

It symbolizes the unity of the Church (and the College of Cardinals specifically) with and supporting the new Pope; its not exactly opaque.
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