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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Is it possible that this move is to reinstate Catholicism in the United States, given that Evangelicals appear to be gaining influence?

What do you mean reinstate? The country was founded by the descendants of people who for the most part hated Catholicism.

Yes, but... the Spanish reached present-day New Mexico before the English reached present-day New England.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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post #363

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Commenting on votes is boring (and violates guidelines) but you probably got downvoted because they're talking about "the Catholic aesthetic" which is 100% a thing, and you started responding to "Catholicism is an aesthetic" which is a statement nobody said.

I did not state Catholicism is an aesthetic. I replied to vFunct's comment "vFunct The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops." "with religion is more than an aesthetic." An aesthetic is using symbols and atmosphere, architecture, to create a beauty. A religion may use these objects, but also has values that do not depend on them. Also, another person posted: " echelon "It truly is. As is the Ancient…

"The Catholic aesthetic" refers to the aesthetic aspects of Catholicism.

"Religion is more than an aesthetic" is 100% true but nothing in the vFunct's statement suggests or implies anything to the contrary. So you're replying to something nobody said.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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I strongly believe the American choice was a strategic decision made by a group of highly intelligent individuals.

To placate or appeal to the current American leadership? What's the desired outcome? European, NATO, or Ukrainian security guarantees?

> What's the desired outcome? European, NATO, or Ukrainian security guarantees?

that would be pretty dump to try, I don't think there are any such goles

> To placate or appeal to the current American leadership?

only we speak about "appealing to them to be more human", "appealing to them to follow christian values", denouncing people which claim to represent christian values in their action which in fact are opposite to what the Roman Church things Christian values are etc.

if we speak about directly influencing politics, especially geopolitics that seems very unlikely to be the intend, or doable

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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post #92

The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.

It's certainly intentional. Before even museums, you local church probably had the highest concentration of man made beauty and opulence of any place you'd visit in your lifetime. It's a source of awe, and gives hope that if you believe, maybe you can get a little piece of it, if not in this life, then surely the next.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Dislike Chicagoans ketchup?

they certainly don't appreciate it on their hot dogs.

being from the non-Chicago part of Illinois, I love piling ketchup on hotdogs in Chicago just to see the looks of disbelief and scorn. Makes the hotdog taste that much better!

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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There are several important American bishops who have made serious strides to protect children. This is an ignorant statement.

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Pedophiles go where children are: schools, churches, mosques, temples, sports clubs, dojos, etc.

The issue with the Catholic Church is that it is the largest church on the planet and therefore is in the news more often. People, however, are pretty much the same wherever you put them. Most are good, some suck.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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post #144

I strongly believe the American choice was a strategic decision made by a group of highly intelligent individuals.

They picked an American, who actually lived and worked in Peru, and not archbishop of New York that Trump suggested.

If they want someone who can effectively oppose Trump, why would they pick someone he suggested?
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