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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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I strongly believe the American choice was a strategic decision made by a group of highly intelligent individuals.

To placate or appeal to the current American leadership? What's the desired outcome? European, NATO, or Ukrainian security guarantees?

From what I read, the new pope is much like Francis on human rights and political topics, but a bit more conservative about church doctrine. Perhaps it's to have a counterpoint to Trump in America, to show that not all American-born leaders are trash? Time will tell, I suppose.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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I strongly believe the American choice was a strategic decision made by a group of highly intelligent individuals.

They picked an American, who actually lived and worked in Peru, and not archbishop of New York that Trump suggested.

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The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.

It truly is. As is the Ancient Roman aesthetic.

There's a reason why Final Fantasy, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, and many more fantasy series lean heavily into the look and feel.

I'm glad we have so many diverse cultures with such rich artistic depths and backgrounds to draw from.

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As a record of how likely people considered this outcome: Prevost was hovering around 1% on Polymarket, and was <0.5% between white smoke and announcement.

Sounds like an amazing opportunity for insider trading

I wouldn't be shocked if that's one of the reasons why they sequester

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To placate or appeal to the current American leadership? What's the desired outcome? European, NATO, or Ukrainian security guarantees?

From what I read, the new pope is much like Francis on human rights and political topics, but a bit more conservative about church doctrine. Perhaps it's to have a counterpoint to Trump in America, to show that not all American-born leaders are trash? Time will tell, I suppose.

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing as he's now head of a religion that believes none of us is perfect (Romans 3:23) it's unsurprising to think someone may allege that he is not perfect.

bad faith response. No one, from any religion, should directly or indirectly support crimes against minors. If people really cared about kids, we would protect them from sexual abuse from priests and prosecute priests via the legal system.

> If people really cared about kids, we would... prosecute priests via the legal system.

Prevost has literally said to alleged victims that they should go to the police.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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"Whereas Francis said, “Who am I to judge?” when asked about gay clerics, Cardinal Prevost has expressed less welcoming views to L.G.B.T.Q. people. In a 2012 address to bishops, he lamented that Western news media and popular culture fostered “sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel.” He cited the “homosexual lifestyle” and “alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their ado…

Curious, do you think he's wrong that it's at odds with what was taught by the apostles? It's obviously unpopular, but I have yet to see a convincing argument (based in the teachings of the Bible) that promotes same-sex marriages. If I were in his position, and part of my duty is to interpret and lead via "the holy scriptures," then I would probably want to be as accurate as possible.

It's important to realize that while the pope's main role is to guard revelation from corruption and manipulation, the teachings on same-sex attraction and the gay lifestyle do not require revelation. They rely solely on the natural law. Ethics rooted in unaided reason suffices.
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