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Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by hobs »

ryandrake wrote: post #75
legitster wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump was never actually a "free market" idealogue. And the GOP officially dropped any mentions of it from their party platform a few years ago. If anything, they are doing exactly what they promised. They were against globalism and elites and international agreements and governance and they are being true to their words.

If I was forced to say one good thing about the guy, it's that he is quickly and faithfully delivering on his campaign promises, moreso than any other president that ever served in my lifetime. He's blasting right through the Project 2025 checklist and doing exactly what he said he'd do. Those campaign promises are destructive, thoughtless, cruel, and self-serving, but he said he'd do them, was elected, and then subs…

He lied and said he had no idea about Project 2025 - when people say "he's doing what he said" no - he's lied about everything and double backed a half dozen times.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

stevage wrote: post #141
ryandrake wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was forced to say one good thing about the guy, it's that he is quickly and faithfully delivering on his campaign promises, moreso than any other president that ever served in my lifetime. He's blasting right through the Project 2025 checklist and doing exactly what he said he'd do. Those campaign promises are destructive, thoughtless, cruel, and self-serving, but he said he'd do them, was elected, and then subs…

Except brokering peace in Ukraine. He also promised an economic boom.

Doesn’t have to have a 100% hit rate to be “getting things done”.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by matwood »

sidibe wrote: post #41
intermerda wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can extend the "free market ideologues" to include more groups such as those who were very concerned about free speech for exactly four years from 2021-2024. Same people were concerned about politicization of justice department, but only when certain Presidents are in office. Same goes for "respect for constitution". "Family values" was abandoned quite a while ago. Wilhoit’s Law has never been truer.

Can't forget being "for the rule of law".

Back the blue, unless of course it's the Capitol Police.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

intermerda wrote: post #25
rectang wrote: post #7

I have zero faith in "free market" ideologues, because what we actually get when they gain power is just favoritism for "free market" ideologues.

You can extend the "free market ideologues" to include more groups such as those who were very concerned about free speech for exactly four years from 2021-2024. Same people were concerned about politicization of justice department, but only when certain Presidents are in office. Same goes for "respect for constitution". "Family values" was abandoned quite a while ago. Wilhoit’s Law has never been truer.

As a 20th century political theorist once said, "the specific political distinction to which political actions and motives can be reduced is that between friend and enemy." If you hear someone talking high-minded rhetoric and idealism but they won't make a friend or an enemy over it, they don't believe it.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by croes »

socalgal2 wrote: post #34

I don't know if it's the same people but many of the comments here seem the opposite of the comments on EUs rules where people say they're targeting specific companies and comments say "no, the rules are such than all companies over a certain size are covered". If the rule is 85% domestic than any company can do it. I'm not saying the tariffs are good. Only that their point is to get things made domesticly

The question is why 85% and not 80%.

Remember when Oklahoma‘s requirements for a new school bible coincidently where only met by the Trump bible?

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by arandomusername »

esalman wrote: post #173
cosmicgadget wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla's success/threat pushed traditional automakers to actually build EVs at scale. It convinced consumers that EVs are viable and kickstarted charging infrastructure. The left accomplished its goal even if it probably would have preferred Elon not go all Kanye on us.

> The left accomplished its goal Yeah we allowed a deranged billionaire to transform auto industry, even if it cost us democracy and threats of fascism and authoritarianism for the foreseeable future. Completely delusional.

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Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by vlovich123 »

Jtsummers wrote: post #64
asdsadasdasd123 wrote: post #42

I dont understand what this article means. Tesla's aren't imported so why would there be tariffs on them. The source link leads nowhere.

The tariffs cover parts as well as whole vehicles. The thing announced here is that they'll have a rebate program if the car is 85% manufactured in the US, and the rebate will be in effect for 2 years. So you still pay the tariff on parts, but you get some or all the money back if you meet that threshold. The idea being that it gives the company two years to move their parts manufacturing or sources. But the threshol…

But even Tesla only maxes out at 75 - how are they eligible? Also wouldn’t surprise me if this carve out is special purpose to give Tesla and only Tesla this rebate.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by viraptor »

stevage wrote: post #137
viraptor wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just the idea in isolation though. I don't think anyone would complain much if the rule was "in N mths the threshold is X". Everyone could do the necessary adjustments and play by the same rules. But if the rule applies immediately, favours the guy who gave you millions, and impacts the competition financially where they need to make me investments to comply with the rules... yeah, that stinks even if it loo…

And absolutely no guarantees those rules stay in place long enough for anyone else to ever benefit.

Ideally that's the long term goal though, right? You want good local production, but not impair the trade forever. The best tariff would be a future one that achieves the shift by threat, then gets cancelled because the goal is complete and there's no point is impacting trade otherwise.

Re: Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

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Post by ramses0 »

stevage wrote: post #141
ryandrake wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was forced to say one good thing about the guy, it's that he is quickly and faithfully delivering on his campaign promises, moreso than any other president that ever served in my lifetime. He's blasting right through the Project 2025 checklist and doing exactly what he said he'd do. Those campaign promises are destructive, thoughtless, cruel, and self-serving, but he said he'd do them, was elected, and then subs…

Except brokering peace in Ukraine. He also promised an economic boom.

We got an economic "boom" alright......
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