Only Teslas exempt from new auto tariffs thanks to 85% domestic content rule

Post by cogman10 » Tue, Apr 29, 2025, 11:51 PM UTC

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #146

cogman10 wrote: post #124

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> You're exaggerating to try to make a point What am I exaggerating? > if the mob had gotten into Congress, Correct, which we have documents, conversations and even zipties which show that was the plan. > if the mob had offed Democrats Again, multiple conversations and recordings of mob members specifically saying this was the plan. > if the Republicans then rubber stamped it and didn't have their own objections Ther…

No, you’re stuck with trying to overplay how significant J6 was. Even if it was considered by the participants to be a coup, it’s irrelevant because it simply did not have the manpower, or any chance at taking out all of the branches of government to a significant degree. Even if all of Congress and SCOTUS was killed, there is a line of succession (created in case of nuclear war) which states would then follow. The c…

Post by esalman » Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 12:00 AM UTC

cosmicgadget wrote: post #169

esalman wrote: post #122

The irony here is that Democrats, for more than a decade, did anything and everything, by bankrolling taxpayers money into incentives and subsidies, to protect Tesla, help it compete and even flourish and scale, in the auto market where margins are razor thin and true innovations are hard to come by, even less so from smaller players. Nobody, except Republicans, batted an eye because climate change, science and envir…

Tesla's success/threat pushed traditional automakers to actually build EVs at scale. It convinced consumers that EVs are viable and kickstarted charging infrastructure. The left accomplished its goal even if it probably would have preferred Elon not go all Kanye on us.

Post by Brian_K_White » Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 12:15 AM UTC

woah wrote: post #106

Brian_K_White wrote: post #29

I am kind of surprised that the collection of people at the tops of all the big companies commanding so many billions, don't have some sort of behind the scenes levers they can pull to make him squeal like a pig, elected office or no. I can only assume they're all actually largely ok with it. I would not have imagined that they just never thought about things like that in general and now have actually no idea what to…

You're so wedded to your overly simplistic and conspiratorial worldview that everything is a secret plan by "the elites", that now you've had to invent a new conspiracy about how they all had a secret plan to lose themselves billions of dollars. Sometimes a stupid guy gets elected by low-information voters, and enacts stupid policies that crash the economy. There isn't any secret illuminati meeting where they can tel…

Post by Brian_K_White » Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 12:20 AM UTC

noduerme wrote: post #50

Brian_K_White wrote: post #29

I am kind of surprised that the collection of people at the tops of all the big companies commanding so many billions, don't have some sort of behind the scenes levers they can pull to make him squeal like a pig, elected office or no. I can only assume they're all actually largely ok with it. I would not have imagined that they just never thought about things like that in general and now have actually no idea what to…

Most people feel like hapless midwits, and we know that most of us actually are. Yet we have this tendency to assume, for some weird reason, that people in important positions have their shit together more than we do. Only in emergencies and times of crisis do we see that no one has their shit together. When we see that, we want to blame it on conspiracy or some sort of 5-dimensional chess being played, because it go…

Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 » Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 12:23 AM UTC

cogman10 wrote: post #171

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #146

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No, you’re stuck with trying to overplay how significant J6 was. Even if it was considered by the participants to be a coup, it’s irrelevant because it simply did not have the manpower, or any chance at taking out all of the branches of government to a significant degree. Even if all of Congress and SCOTUS was killed, there is a line of succession (created in case of nuclear war) which states would then follow. The c…

Killing multiple members of Congress wasn't improbable outcome of J6. Do you agree or disagree. Let's set aside everything else. Do you at least conceed that politicians lives were on the line.