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Post by chupasaurus »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #241
chupasaurus wrote: post #177

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FF memory management on Linux is usually outpaced by oom_killer.

Not my experience at all with 16 GB RAM. Perhaps a configuration issue? zswap and mglru do their job well here and the only issue with reaching tens of thousands open tabs in Firefox is that it tends to become noticeably slower at that point.

Firefox with any number of open tabs is stable on memory usage because it has a target budget for it, most of the oom situations come either from external processes or a spike from FF's own.

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Post by sorenjan »

bobajeff wrote: post #245
bityard wrote: post #213

It's worth remembering that Firefox HAD tab groups before, just under a different name and then killed it because "nobody used it": https://medium.com/@twidi/how-i-survived-the-removal-of-pano... The implementation here is a bit different, I'm sure, but the core idea is the same: Group your tabs however you like and switch between the groups at will. I use Vivaldi these days (thanks to it's excellent UI customization…

I'm nobody. I loved panorama. It was basically Exposé but in a browser which allowed me to keep not just tabs but 'Windows' organized visually without taking up separate tasks in my actual task manager. This new feature (which I've already gotten to test), I can almost use the same way, though I'm wary of Mozilla yanking it away from me if I rely on it.

There are extensions that does the same thing, like this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/panorama-view...

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Post by BosunoB »

I switched to Floorp last month and it's amazing. It's a Firefox fork with tab rows. Tab rows are the real MVP. None of the annoying weirdness of Tree Style Tabs, where you have to keep track of a hierarchy of tabs that are hidden behind other tabs. Instead, you just see 3-4 rows of tabs and you make a mental map of what is where.

Once they release the new version in a month or two, we'll also get newer Firefox features like these tab groups, and we'll also get workspace improvements. Floorp is 10/10.

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Post by imcritic »

cassianoleal wrote: post #61
barbazoo wrote: post #49

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Have you checked out Arc? I switched the other day and their approach to somewhat-permanent "tabs" is interesting. At first I missed bookmarks but then I realized that what they were doing is actually closer to how I want to use the browser.

If you like Arc but would prefer if it was open source and/or non-Blink/Chromium, Zen is based on Firefox but with an Arc-like interface. https://zen-browser.app/

Poor UI, judging by the screenshots on that page. Another piece of software that treats users as imbeciles in dire need of being saved from "clutter".

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Post by imcritic »

glenstein wrote: post #196
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #36

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I have almost 2000 tabs open. I use sideberry for tab management. > Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Yep, that's as good a description as any. I have a lot of tabs that I'm not "finished with" in any finite amount of time. Case in point: currently shopping for a steam generator for a steam shower. I have about 30-40 tabs open to different models, stores, reviews, data pages…

This approach has made me wonder about the utility of a pin board style bookmark managing service where browser history and bookmarking amount to the same thing. As a way of kind of serving that process that's served by having all kinds of tabs. And maybe it could even overlap with tab management. Like if you name a tab group something, it gets named that as part of a persistent history. Like a tag for your bookmark…

Browser history gets rotated. I've lost a beautiful song that way, forgetting to like/bookmark it properly, thinking I'd just find it in history...

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Post by kif »

As someone who frequently has tens of open tabs across different windows, this will be massively helpful. Especially since I frequently find myself trying to remember which window was for which ‘mental group’.

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Post by appointment »

Izkata wrote: post #279
ssnepenthe wrote: post #269

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Not sure how it compares to chrome but firefox does have a solid open tab search. You can either click "list all tabs" button (down arrow to the right of the new tab button) and then "search tabs" or enter "%" as the first character in the address bar followed by your search term. As far as I know there is no keyboard shortcut for it.

They changed the official named from "address bar" to "location bar" ages ago when they added functionality like that, and to go with the new name, "ctrl + l" is a shortcut for it.

Netscape always called the url bar the "location bar". "Address bar" is Internet Explorer's term. (At some point Netscape/Mozilla copied the ctrl+d shortcut for A_d_dress from IE as well.)

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Post by gertlex »

em-bee wrote: post #268
bityard wrote: post #222

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How about I try a metaphor: Imagine you work in a building. Inside the building, there are multiple rooms. Each room has a different project going on inside it. In one room, you are building a canoe. In another, you are restoring a motorcycle. Another is a music production studio. And so on. Every day, you enter this hypothetical building to get some work done in one or more of the rooms. Now imagine every night whil…

i feel exactly like you, but i managed to solve that problem with windows, each room/project is a window with tabs. since the UI makes switching windows easy, that makes switching projects easy. eventually i discovered the winger extension which allows me to give windows a name, its important feature, because it makes finding the right window easier. it also makes it easy to move tabs from one window to another.

Windows are a good solution, except, MS Windows (my home desktop) makes it not a good solution.

I'm pretty sure the ordering of my 4 firefox windows used to stay fixed (i.e when clicking the tray icon, and seeing the 4), but this stopped being the case a few years ago for me.

So I live with 3-4 windows; I don't think having 10 windows would help me because their arrangement is not consistent.

(I hover between about 600-1100 tabs open; I do cleanup when I notice I'm near or above 1000; I don't reliably do cleanup after e.g. opening 5 ebay tabs and deciding what to buy; nor do I reliably finish using those ebay tabs in one sitting; multiply that by the dozens of things I might be researching/comparing, going back many months :) )

(I keep my work Linux laptop Chrome browser to under 50 tabs, and often don't bother restoring tabs after my laptop is rebooted)

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