Unfortunately I can no longer find it. But I still remember being called psychopath and having mental health issues on HN for having a few hundreds tabs opened.
I mean, I'm not surprised, how do you cope with so few tabs?!
Firefox tab groups are here
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#222I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…
How about I try a metaphor: Imagine you work in a building. Inside the building, there are multiple rooms. Each room has a different project going on inside it. In one room, you are building a canoe. In another, you are restoring a motorcycle. Another is a music production studio. And so on. Every day, you enter this hypothetical building to get some work done in one or more of the rooms.
Now imagine every night while you're asleep, a cleaning crew comes into your building and tidies up. But they don't just sweep the floor and take out the garbage, they also put away all the tools, pick up any open books and put them back on the bookshelf, re-assemble the motorcycle, and put the music equipment back in its retail boxes.
When you come back in the morning, you have to dedicate minutes to hours just getting things back to where they were when you left. And because you're ADHD as fuck, you probably don't remember exactly where you left off and frequently end up skipping some major step or accidentally redoing work that you did before.
That is what my life feels like without tab groups.
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#223What a roller coaster ride of a post. Great job guys. No mention of whether the feature is available now on a stable release. What release version that is. How to enable it. How to actually use it. Where to go for documentation or bugs. And congratulations on concentrating on the one top feature request. What's next? Looking at some of the 20 year old bugs that still exist?
This is a better link for the actual feature, as opposed to the process that led to its prioritization:
Re: Firefox tab groups are here
#224I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…
I also rarely have many things open, but now I have a bunch, and it's very useful to have them in group (in Edge). I am working on three services at once, because we need a change that impacts all three, and they depend on each other as well. I have my ticket open, and its parent ticket as well for context. I have the pull request, the build pipeline, and the deployment settings open for each service. I have an AI open, an API reference open, and I have 1-2 random internet searches open. All in all, this is 14-15 tabs.
I can imagine that other people who have different contexts, and some web apps like mail, im and socials, that can easily make use of tab groups. Grouping and coloring them makes it really easy to not get lost in the bunch that is open at the same time.
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#225about:config and then set browser.tabs.groups.enabled I'm really puzzled by the UI, you have to drag and drop a tab onto another to create a tab group. This really sucks because now when you want to move a tab you have to be pixel and timing exact to not create a tab group. Most of the time when moving a tab I end up creating a tab group then having to right click and then "ungroup tab" Also you cannot move tab group…
With the horizontal tab layout, you can drag-and-drop the group name to move the whole group, same as singular tab. Although the first time I tried it it didn't work, now that I keep trying with different click timing etc it seems reliable - not sure if there's maybe a drag handling bug hiding in there somewhere.
We've implemented drag and drop of groups for both horizontal and vertical in 138 which presumably you were updated to today :)
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'm really puzzled by the UI, you have to drag and drop a tab onto another to create a tab group. You can also use Right Click->Add Tab To Group This is what I use as the pull tabs together is very bad UI. It's to easy to move the tab instead and / or open a new window. Hope this improves with time.
Thanks for the right click, I don't know how I missed it the first time I looked... Do you know how do you move a tab group once created? Right click has a menu manage but only option is to create a new window with the tab group. Drag and drop doesn't to work on the tab group (to reorder it vs other groups and tabs).
> Do you know how do you move a tab group once created?
It should work once you've updated to Firefox 138.
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#227Apparently, they've also released a new profile manager that's finally simpler than the clunky earlier one. This is the last feature I really need for my workflow to completely ditch Chrome. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-management
> Firefox prevents syncing multiple profiles with the same Mozilla account on the same device. If you create a new Firefox profile and then try to sign in to Sync with the same Mozilla account used in the other profile on that device, Firefox will block the sign-in to keep profiles separate. Is this just a temporary technical limitation / anybody know if there are plans to fix this? Why should the user need to rememb…
It's probably not broken but just works that way. Profiles are separate in more ways. Syncing all profiles could be counterproductive and unwanted. (for example, profiles which might just belong to different people - though it may be unlikely on a same pc but nonetheless. or syncing profiles that are intentionally kept separate, like work and personal stuff). It's not how it worked before in firefox, and it's not how it works on chrome or other browsers, and it's probably not in users expectations, when they expect separate things to be actually separate. (which seems to utterly confuse people who mix up container tabs and profiles functionality.) Conversely, why should someone remember, or rather, suddenly find out, that every profile in some firefox install is syncing to a same account, even though it is "intended" to be a separate, brand new, start from scratch kinda thing?
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have 53 tabs open on Firefox Android. They are a dump of what I'm reading or wish to read or what I want to come back to. Sometimes I send a tab to my desktop using the KDE Connect app. I have Gnome with GS Connect on my Linux laptop. I've got 113 tabs on that machine (about:telemetry#scalars-tab_search=tab). I'm using 5 virtual desktop, 2 for me and one for each of my customers. One Firefox window per desktop (may…
Does it need really that much RAM? RAM you don't use tend to get swapped out, and browsers themselves are pretty good working with a large amount of tabs opened, sometimes by unloading those that are currently unused. Note: swap is good! I think what kill memory more than having dozens of windows on many desktops is self contained apps and VMs. For example, if you have a browser with 1000 tabs open, you will only hav…
I checked. htop reports 22.7 GB. I do have one VM with 4 GB RAM.
Having 32 GB I disabled swap. It's been maybe 8 years since the last time I had swap on. No problems at all.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
With the horizontal tab layout, you can drag-and-drop the group name to move the whole group, same as singular tab. Although the first time I tried it it didn't work, now that I keep trying with different click timing etc it seems reliable - not sure if there's maybe a drag handling bug hiding in there somewhere.
We've implemented drag and drop of groups for both horizontal and vertical in 138 which presumably you were updated to today :)
I've only enabled tab groups on my profile after updating to 138 today. That first attempt where drag-and-drop didn't work was already on 138. But I can't reproduce it anymore, so I assume that was a fluke. Looks good so far!
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#230Apparently, they've also released a new profile manager that's finally simpler than the clunky earlier one. This is the last feature I really need for my workflow to completely ditch Chrome. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-management
Hooray, it only took them ...a decade or so?