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Post by Aerroon »

deredede wrote: post #249
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

> Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue with bookmarks and history not being as useful as they could be? I think tabs are just the better user interface. It's not that I'm afraid I won't find the page in my history and bookmarks, it's that I don't want to have to do that because it's painful. History is full of irrelevant pages. Bookmarks make me lose…

I think an interesting feature might be tabs that turn into bookmarks automatically after a week/month of being open but not interacted with.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

m_t wrote: post #185
giancarlostoro wrote: post #136

This is weird to me because like 10 years ago Firefox had something with tabs that I loved, where you could have workspaces and switch between them, then that randomly disappeared. It was called Panorama and that was removed in Firefox 45

Thank you for mentioning this. I felt like I was going crazy not seeing anyone mentioning it in the comments. This was a very important feature to le at the time, as I used to work on multiple projects at the same time, and I had all of those organised in a simple, very visual way. I also had a group for "communication" with all my webmails, forums, etc. And another one with all the webcomics I used to read at the ti…

I used the absolute heck out of the crazy stuff they did with tabs, I was upset when it went away.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

opello wrote: post #168
giancarlostoro wrote: post #136

This is weird to me because like 10 years ago Firefox had something with tabs that I loved, where you could have workspaces and switch between them, then that randomly disappeared. It was called Panorama and that was removed in Firefox 45

There's an extension[1] now that restores the functionality, but the removal is exactly why I'm hesitant to try a new tab organizational tool: the loss of the last one was workflow breaking enough to break trust. [1] https://github.com/projectdelphai/panorama-tab-groups

Wow, its a shame that looks unmaintained, that tabbing feature was one of the best things in Firefox at the time.

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Post by natebc »

ryandrake wrote: post #200

These HN threads with people that have 20K tabs living for years are so wild! I guess I'm the only savage in the world who closes my browser window and quits the browser application whenever I'm done with my computer for the day. I occasionally use tabs to temporarily have one or two web pages open at a time, usually because I need to browse/compare both of them actively, but when I'm not actively reading a page, I s…

I'm with you. New browser every morning. I shut my computer down at night too.

More than 8 or 10 tabs open and i start cleaning 'em up.

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Post by guerby »

dao- wrote: post #226
guerby wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the right click, I don't know how I missed it the first time I looked... Do you know how do you move a tab group once created? Right click has a menu manage but only option is to create a new window with the tab group. Drag and drop doesn't to work on the tab group (to reorder it vs other groups and tabs).

> Do you know how do you move a tab group once created? It should work once you've updated to Firefox 138.

It does thanks!

Re: Firefox tab groups are here

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Post by guerby »

dao- wrote: post #234
saurik wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, that was also my experience when Edge added this feature. It was particularly annoying as I did not ever want to use the feature. I guess Firefox wanted to be bug-for-bug compatible? :(

In about:config, try looking for browser.tabs.dragDrop. The createGroup... and moveOverThresholdPercent flags control the group creation behavior during drag and drop. If anyone finds values that make it less likely to accidentally create groups while still allowing intentional grouping via drag and drop, I can channel these back to the team.

Is there a way to disable the creation of tab group by drag and drop altogether by tweaking these parameters ?

Also I noticed another thing: drag and droping a tab on a folded tab group doesn't work. You have to unfold the tab group then you can drag and drop a tab into it.

It would be great to allow drag and drop of a tab on a folded tab group and if dropped just put the tab at the end of the group, it would make the tab group feature more useful by allowing to quickly select and drop tabs where they should go.

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Post by brailsafe »

canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

Yes, soft bookmark for ongoing threads. Bookmark folders are fine for other things, but generally bookmarks end up out of sight, and out of mind.

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Post by em-bee »

bityard wrote: post #222
canadianwriter wrote: post #3

I never have more than like 10 tabs open at a time, so likely wont be helpful to me, but I find this super interesting! Can someone explain what normal people use so many tabs for? It seems to be super common to have tons and tons open. Are people using tabs as a soft bookmark of basically anything interesting? Afraid to close the page because they wont find it in their history or bookmarks? Is this more an issue wit…

How about I try a metaphor: Imagine you work in a building. Inside the building, there are multiple rooms. Each room has a different project going on inside it. In one room, you are building a canoe. In another, you are restoring a motorcycle. Another is a music production studio. And so on. Every day, you enter this hypothetical building to get some work done in one or more of the rooms. Now imagine every night whil…

i feel exactly like you, but i managed to solve that problem with windows, each room/project is a window with tabs. since the UI makes switching windows easy, that makes switching projects easy. eventually i discovered the winger extension which allows me to give windows a name, its important feature, because it makes finding the right window easier. it also makes it easy to move tabs from one window to another.

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Post by ssnepenthe »

Narushia wrote: post #256

Now they only need instant tab search, like Chrome does with Ctrl+Shift+A. It's like the last thing I'm personally missing before I can actually make Firefox my primary browser. Chrome's tab search is so damn good for navigating in a big tab jungle, it's one of my favorite and most used features of the browser.

Not sure how it compares to chrome but firefox does have a solid open tab search.

You can either click "list all tabs" button (down arrow to the right of the new tab button) and then "search tabs" or enter "%" as the first character in the address bar followed by your search term.

As far as I know there is no keyboard shortcut for it.

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Post by opello »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #263
opello wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an extension[1] now that restores the functionality, but the removal is exactly why I'm hesitant to try a new tab organizational tool: the loss of the last one was workflow breaking enough to break trust. [1] https://github.com/projectdelphai/panorama-tab-groups

Wow, its a shame that looks unmaintained, that tabbing feature was one of the best things in Firefox at the time.

I still use it successfully, but there are a few annoyances with drag and drop in the panorama view. It isn't as nice as when it was integrated unfortunately.
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