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Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by blitzar »

klodolph wrote: post #36
lazide wrote: post #21

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SK has been ‘crazy’ this way for many decades. It’s also why it is so obsessed with plastic surgery. Japan has been going in a similar direction, but has some notable differences (tentacle porn really is a thing, as is chibi). Everyone is just becoming more aware of it, which hey - at least it isn’t just all about the USA anymore!

Japan isn’t actually going in that direction… as far as I can tell, there’s just a ton of “Japan is so weird” articles that get shared in the west. Like, articles about vending machines that sell used panties to perverts, or men who get married to anime characters. You could just as easily write these articles about the US or any country in Europe, it’s just a bit of old-fashioned orientalism going around that we hap…

You should see the "America is so weird" articles that get shared in the west about 13 year old girls being married off to adult men. Chilling stuff.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by dyauspitr »

rwyinuse wrote: post #32
hliyan wrote: post #9

Some of the perpetrators: "Two former students from the prestigious Seoul National University (SNU)" and "a quiet, introverted student “someone you’d never imagine doing such a thing,”". "...lot of articles and comments about deepfakes saying, ‘Why is it a serious crime when it’s not even your real body?’”" This seems like a deep societal issue that cannot be solved through harsh criminal penalties alone.

Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by [deleted] »

saagarjha wrote: post #38
Probuin wrote: post #13

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Misandry is rampant too, which is a big part of why men are checking out or even developing resentment towards women. This article even touches on it, for example, in that just possessing deep-faked porn is punishable by up to 3 years imprisonment. There are many men who will literally never experience a woman's touch, are shunned, isolated, ridiculed, shamed, and even hated by society. They are not bad people, their…

Normal porn is freely available! You don't have to make deepfake porn of your classmate!

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by shiandow »

quietmonkey wrote: post #40
myaccountonhn wrote: post #37

I think if anything will stop free computing, it'll be AI, specifically for this reason. Too easy to abused, and too many (especially women) being harmed.

What would that look like? It's hard to imagine putting the genie back in the bottle with any technology, let alone the personal computer which has been in circulation for decades.

Really? Hoe many people do you know who use big neural networks, how many of them run it on their own hardware?

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by phinnaeus »

dyauspitr wrote: post #42
rwyinuse wrote: post #32

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Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

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It is not so hard for me to imagine a world where women have equal freedoms to men and are not actively discouraged from having children. We have structured society in such a way that it is often the more rational financial, logistical, etc choice to be child free.

Do you think we can fix those problems without stripping women of freedoms? I do.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by novavex »

lazide wrote: post #23
djur wrote: post #19

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How is that "misandry"? Do you think only men are lonely and deprived of sex? Do you think only men fantasize about people they're attracted to? How did men survive so many years without synthetic porn of the woman at the office? Producing deepfakes, even for personal use, is irresponsible. Men can use their imaginations.

While Men certainly can be (and likely will be) a major driver, don’t underestimate the willingness of women to target other women using the same tactics and techniques if they think they can get away with it. Men may kill you, but women will make you wish you were dead.

Man comments like this make me a lot more fearful of random men than random women. I've seen so many more vile comments touted by men (I choose to believe the majority of them are bots!) than I've ever seen made by women on regular sites. I don't understand how people become this way.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by exsomet »

quietmonkey wrote: post #40
myaccountonhn wrote: post #37

I think if anything will stop free computing, it'll be AI, specifically for this reason. Too easy to abused, and too many (especially women) being harmed.

What would that look like? It's hard to imagine putting the genie back in the bottle with any technology, let alone the personal computer which has been in circulation for decades.

Humans have a long history of leading very real and literal crusades based on morals.

It’s not that far-fetched to think that could happen again one day - perhaps over AI and computers, perhaps over something else. All you need to do is convince enough people with weapons that you’re the moral compass of the time.

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Post by dyauspitr »

phinnaeus wrote: post #45
dyauspitr wrote: post #42

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It is not so hard for me to imagine a world where women have equal freedoms to men and are not actively discouraged from having children. We have structured society in such a way that it is often the more rational financial, logistical, etc choice to be child free. Do you think we can fix those problems without stripping women of freedoms? I do.

Maybe eventually but I think South Korea is already at or very close to the point of no return from total population collapse. Given that we’ve never seen an example of what you’re referring to we probably won’t get there in time.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by myaccountonhn »

quietmonkey wrote: post #40
myaccountonhn wrote: post #37

I think if anything will stop free computing, it'll be AI, specifically for this reason. Too easy to abused, and too many (especially women) being harmed.

What would that look like? It's hard to imagine putting the genie back in the bottle with any technology, let alone the personal computer which has been in circulation for decades.

Basically only approved,locked down devices provided by Microsoft and Apple.

Maybe outlaw any app not on an app store.

Just some (dystopic) ideas.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by brabel »

Probuin wrote: post #20

I understand the laws against distribution, but can anyone explain why creating/possessing deep-faked porn for private use is so morally reprehensible or even criminal? I can't identify a victim in this scenario. Whose business is it? I genuinely couldn't care less if someone did this "to" me, but then I recognise that as a middle aged dude that's not ever happening so I may have a blind spot here. How would I even k…

It’s indeed thought police. But i suppose there’s a huge difference when the material is used for blackmail… and there’s also a risk it may be stolen and then shared publicly in which case it can be devastating for the victim. But if you keep the material well hidden it’s similar to if it was just in your imagination and hopefully that’s not illegal yet.
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