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Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Doesn't SK have the lowest birth rate in the world?

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

Women don’t care for the men because of articles like this? I would suggest that the widespread misogyny would more likely be the cause.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

Women don’t care for the men because of articles like this? I would suggest that the widespread misogyny would more likely be the cause.

I feel like declining birthrates and misogyny unfortunately easily go hand in hand, causing a downward spiral. The rarer kids are, the more they tend to get spoiled and the more likely they are to act entitled towards others.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Doesn't SK have the lowest birth rate in the world?

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

Misandry is rampant too, which is a big part of why men are checking out or even developing resentment towards women.

This article even touches on it, for example, in that just possessing deep-faked porn is punishable by up to 3 years imprisonment. There are many men who will literally never experience a woman's touch, are shunned, isolated, ridiculed, shamed, and even hated by society. They are not bad people, their only crime is not being attractive. Who are they hurting if they get their rocks off privately fantasising about a woman with the help of AI and image editors? It's downright cruel.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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As a parent I worry about this technology being used on children. While one way of preventing this from happening is to limit photos of children on social media it's extremely difficult to maintain this once they hit high school/secondary school. That approach also doesn't stop someone taking source photos or video using their phone.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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post #14

As a parent I worry about this technology being used on children. While one way of preventing this from happening is to limit photos of children on social media it's extremely difficult to maintain this once they hit high school/secondary school. That approach also doesn't stop someone taking source photos or video using their phone.

One of the most popular models on civit.ai today (huggingface for diffusion models but defacto basically a porn site) is the “age slider”.

It’s 10000% mostly used for creating this kind of horrifying content.

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post #9

Some of the perpetrators: "Two former students from the prestigious Seoul National University (SNU)" and "a quiet, introverted student “someone you’d never imagine doing such a thing,”". "...lot of articles and comments about deepfakes saying, ‘Why is it a serious crime when it’s not even your real body?’”" This seems like a deep societal issue that cannot be solved through harsh criminal penalties alone.

Thought experiment - what if it was someone making a really convincing painting of the same thing?

These are of course real issues, which is why this is going to be an increasingly large problem. The easiest way to ‘deal’ with them is to double down on them - aka [https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/3jfqo9/til_t...] - but not very many people have the, uh, testicular fortitude to be able to do that.

Especially women.

Neo-Victorian’ism anyone?

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women don’t care for the men because of articles like this? I would suggest that the widespread misogyny would more likely be the cause.

I feel like declining birthrates and misogyny unfortunately easily go hand in hand, causing a downward spiral. The rarer kids are, the more they tend to get spoiled and the more likely they are to act entitled towards others.

Don't developed countries tend to have low birthrates and high status of women? Are you saying that low birth rates cause misogynistic behaviour of kids?

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

Misandry is rampant too, which is a big part of why men are checking out or even developing resentment towards women. This article even touches on it, for example, in that just possessing deep-faked porn is punishable by up to 3 years imprisonment. There are many men who will literally never experience a woman's touch, are shunned, isolated, ridiculed, shamed, and even hated by society. They are not bad people, their…

How is that "misandry"? Do you think only men are lonely and deprived of sex? Do you think only men fantasize about people they're attracted to? How did men survive so many years without synthetic porn of the woman at the office? Producing deepfakes, even for personal use, is irresponsible. Men can use their imaginations.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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I understand the laws against distribution, but can anyone explain why creating/possessing deep-faked porn for private use is so morally reprehensible or even criminal?

I can't identify a victim in this scenario. Whose business is it? I genuinely couldn't care less if someone did this "to" me, but then I recognise that as a middle aged dude that's not ever happening so I may have a blind spot here. How would I even know unless, ironically, the investigation and prosecution publicised the fact that it exists?

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