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Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by djur »

Probuin wrote: post #25
djur wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that "misandry"? Do you think only men are lonely and deprived of sex? Do you think only men fantasize about people they're attracted to? How did men survive so many years without synthetic porn of the woman at the office? Producing deepfakes, even for personal use, is irresponsible. Men can use their imaginations.

How is it not misandry? A law targeting men to deny them even the illusion of love and happiness, punishable by years in prison. A peaceful, albeit distasteful, fleeting solution to their complete rejection by society. I don't see why it's anyone's business, least of all the law. It's cruel. It's spiteful.

How is the law targeting men? As far as I know, it's just as illegal for women to create and possess deepfake porn.

And, again: you do not need deepfake porn to have love and happiness, even an illusion of it. I personally think better of men than to think that a fake nudie pic of the neighbor's wife would be the keystone of their mental wellbeing. If anything is misandry, it's thinking of men as a bunch of sex-crazed gremlins.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by rwyinuse »

hliyan wrote: post #9

Some of the perpetrators: "Two former students from the prestigious Seoul National University (SNU)" and "a quiet, introverted student “someone you’d never imagine doing such a thing,”". "...lot of articles and comments about deepfakes saying, ‘Why is it a serious crime when it’s not even your real body?’”" This seems like a deep societal issue that cannot be solved through harsh criminal penalties alone.

Yeah, there is a reason why South Korea continues to break records for the lowest fertility rate in the world, making even Japan's birth rate issues look small in comparison. Their society appears to be deeply, deeply sick in numerous ways. Not a good place to live, unless your calling is to work all your waking hours to make the rich even richer.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by throw9393494949 »

Probuin wrote: post #13
whateveracct wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

Misandry is rampant too, which is a big part of why men are checking out or even developing resentment towards women. This article even touches on it, for example, in that just possessing deep-faked porn is punishable by up to 3 years imprisonment. There are many men who will literally never experience a woman's touch, are shunned, isolated, ridiculed, shamed, and even hated by society. They are not bad people, their…

Because it is. There is no point trying to solve, or getting depressed about it. Just walk away.

South Korea still has male only slavery in army.

There are facebook groups where female share revenge porn, "are we dating the same guy" or "does this look infected?".

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by rwyinuse »

IshKebab wrote: post #29
whateveracct wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

I've never been to South Korea but I'd be really surprised if that has much to do with it. The entire Western world has had massively declining birth rates while simultaneously becoming less misogynistic. If anything there's a negative correlation. In more equitable societies women don't want to just be mothers, and society changes so that it is now difficult for them. For example it's very difficult to live off a si…

South Korea's birth rate is extremely low even by rich Western world standards. Attitudes towards women are one root cause, materialistic culture another, but their horrible working life is probably even more significant factor. It's hard to have a family when you're busy wage slaving all your waking hours for Samsung or whatever megacorporation, just to afford a place to live.

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by klodolph »

lazide wrote: post #21
arcen wrote: post #8

A lot of these SK stories keep reading like a cultural/techno dystopia, which makes me wonder if people there want change to occur.

SK has been ‘crazy’ this way for many decades. It’s also why it is so obsessed with plastic surgery. Japan has been going in a similar direction, but has some notable differences (tentacle porn really is a thing, as is chibi). Everyone is just becoming more aware of it, which hey - at least it isn’t just all about the USA anymore!

Japan isn’t actually going in that direction… as far as I can tell, there’s just a ton of “Japan is so weird” articles that get shared in the west. Like, articles about vending machines that sell used panties to perverts, or men who get married to anime characters. You could just as easily write these articles about the US or any country in Europe, it’s just a bit of old-fashioned orientalism going around that we happen to write these articles about Japan. I assume SK is mostly boring and has boring problems like the rest of us, like rampant alcoholism and poor work culture. Likewise, the social problems with Japan are boring ones like (again) work culture, being punished for standing out, or having to navigate bureaucracy.

I don’t even know why chibi would be on your list since it’s just a style of drawing cartoons with big heads.

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Post by saagarjha »

Probuin wrote: post #13
whateveracct wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, and misogyny and south korean women's collective reaction to it is definitely one root cause. not the only, but due to garbage like this article, women there do not especially care for the men.

Misandry is rampant too, which is a big part of why men are checking out or even developing resentment towards women. This article even touches on it, for example, in that just possessing deep-faked porn is punishable by up to 3 years imprisonment. There are many men who will literally never experience a woman's touch, are shunned, isolated, ridiculed, shamed, and even hated by society. They are not bad people, their…

Normal porn is freely available! You don't have to make deepfake porn of your classmate!

Re: Deepfake porn is destroying real lives in South Korea

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Post by quietmonkey »

myaccountonhn wrote: post #37

I think if anything will stop free computing, it'll be AI, specifically for this reason. Too easy to abused, and too many (especially women) being harmed.

What would that look like? It's hard to imagine putting the genie back in the bottle with any technology, let alone the personal computer which has been in circulation for decades.
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