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Pope Francis has died

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Post by codr7 »

kergonath wrote: post #206
heresie-dabord wrote: post #180

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He riled many of his flock and hierarchy when he said that "even atheists can be redeemed". [0] I will always applaud a person who retreats — even just a little — from dogma and fanaticism. https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/05/29/187009384/...

> He riled many of his flock and hierarchy when he said that "even atheists can be redeemed". Which is "interesting", considering how much of the New Testament is about redemption and reaching out to outsiders. Aren’t we all supposed to be God’s creation, and wasn’t Jesus supposed to teach us about salvation, redemption and forgiveness? (And by "interesting", I mean that it is yet another of example cognitive dissona…

Mind explaining your issues with Kirill?

Haven't really been paying attention. Wasn't he the one who got Russia into defending persecuted Christians wherever (Syria etc)?

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Post by lordleft »

I am a (non-catholic) Christian and I loved Pope Francis, for all the hate he won from traditionalists. He really seemed Christ-like, in his deep concern for the marginalized and poor. He never ceased to emphasize Jesus' saving power and good news. May he rest in peace and may he be with our Lord.

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Post by keepamovin »

gortok wrote: post #219
keepamovin wrote: post #87

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I thought the film the Two Popes gave a good overview of his life and perspective.

It’s important to note that The Two Popes was a drama, and not a true factual story. It fictionalizes and sensationalizes some details; and that’s ok because its purpose is to make you feel exactly the way you feel about it. Pope Francis was a wonderful steward of Christianity and espoused the virtues that anyone would want to see in their religious leaders: humility, grace, an openness to listen and a strong voice a…

Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

- John 14:27

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Post by ptero »

throwawaysad123 wrote: post #118
Teever wrote: post #112

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There were recent posts about George Foreman and Val Kilmer dying. The way these rules are enforced is pretty hit and miss. With that said I think that the pope dying is a subject worth discussing on HN. It's unfortunate that it seems to be descending into a flame war about Israel though.

I don't get it. There are nearly unlimited forums where these deaths, especially the pope, are being actively discussed. Why do we need it here? Hacker News was once a place focused on sharing news you wouldn't find most other places. Is it time to update the guidelines?

HN focuses on fostering thoughtful discussion by curious people on anything those folks find interesting. Technology naturally bubbles up, but it is far from the only thing on HN.

This focus on people is to me, is WAY better than theme-based filtering (compare with many subreddit cesspools).

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Post by snozolli »

code_for_monkey wrote: post #213
libertine wrote: post #211

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Ukraine is fighting to defend its land, not against an extermination campaign like Palestine

False. Russia has sought the cultural genocide of Ukraine for hundreds of years.

https://ukraineworld.org/en/articles/basics/linguicide-ukrai...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-history-of-subjugating-...

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/23/russia-ukraine-cultural...

https://academic.oup.com/jicj/article/21/2/233/7197410

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/why-russias-war-ukrai...

This is why they fire missiles at museums and libraries. This is why they steal Ukrainian children and ship them to Russia for adoption. This is why they deport Ukrainian citizens to Siberia and bring in Russians to replace them.

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Post by code_for_monkey »

eqmvii wrote: post #122
fleabitdev wrote: post #110

Last year, an interviewer asked Francis how he envisages hell. His response stayed with me: “It’s difficult to imagine it. What I would say is not a dogma of faith, but my personal thought: I like to think hell is empty; I hope it is.”

A much more hopeful version than “Hell is empty, and all the devils are here”!

LOL Ill say! Far more positive

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Post by Trasmatta »

fastball wrote: post #133
fleabitdev wrote: post #110

Last year, an interviewer asked Francis how he envisages hell. His response stayed with me: “It’s difficult to imagine it. What I would say is not a dogma of faith, but my personal thought: I like to think hell is empty; I hope it is.”

Nothing from the Bible indicates that hell is empty, so that is indeed an interesting response from the Pope.

The Bible has very little to say about hell in general.
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