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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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« This actually caused some annoyance among law enforcement officials who believed they had suspects' phones stored in a readable state, only to find they were rebooting and becoming harder to access due to this feature. » Wouldn't the phones run out of battery after a few days anyway? Or do they keep them plugged in?

They keep them plugged in

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Interestingly, it could also be seen the other way around; it's a potential way for Google to force deployments of system updates (potentially at the request of law enforcement). With an automatic reboot, then the update can automatically be applied without user action.

Except that on most phone you can already reboot the device if you long-press some button, can't you?

You can always turn it off and on, AFAIK.

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> I have to use TouchID again. Don’t set it up with a passcode in the first place?

Unfortunately I use Advanced Data Protection on my Apple account so I kind a need that passcode. And moving to having completely different Apple account for development is PITA.

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

>not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished

And to your point, I believe it's now the case in the U.S. that you can be legally compelled to unlock a fingerprint lock, but not a pin for whatever reason.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Not bad. If I could make a feature request it would be something like, After 3 days of being idle: - [ ] Reboot - [ ] Power Off - [X] WIPE triple opt-in Maybe there is a custom phone OS for this that makes the phone act more ephemeral and network boot off my self hosted iPXE/immich server? A dumb smart phone so to speak. An ephemeral diskless phone.

A wipe seems extreme. An unexpected trip to the hospital could leave someone with a wiped phone when they come to.

If that’s something you are worried about, don’t choose that option.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

This is super annoying on newer iOS for device that I use purely for development. Before it was possible just keep iPhone unlocked indefenitely, but now it reboots and boom I have to use TouchID again. This is again Apple being Apple making things harder without option to disable it even when development mode is on. Has anyone found a way to bypass it?

Considering this is all about Android adopting a very similar feature, it doesn’t sound like “Apple being Apple”…

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Can't it run two OSes, so the booting becomes instantaneous? (Like swapping graphics buffers, but now with the entire OS)

Android ships a feature called bootchart which you can use to prove that most of the time your phone spends booting.. it is actually far from bottlenecked on storage or compute - bugs to be fixed; not worked around with even more complexity. Heck, some phones do not even stop playing their vendors fancy animated logo when they are finished before the animation is.

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How about instead of patching up our societies with technology we vote for the right people / laws for once?

This won't help those of us living in countries where "elected" officials elect themselves. We haven't had a single honest election in decades (and probably won't ever have one), so measures like this are better than nothing.

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It is not clear to me at all why the ‘benefits’ presented outweigh the negatives (which is _my_ device doing anything without me instructing it to). Even if you can turn it off, this is apparently enabled by default. Law enforcement keeping hold of my phone for 3 days is simply not a realistic problem for me. Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is. The chances of law…

> Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is. It is? I mean, my iPhone asks me for my passcode every 7 days anyways. And that's the only thing that happens on reboot anyways. Also, you forget your phone for a weekend? How do you do anything during that weekend, like keep in touch with loved ones, get driving directions, pull up a boarding pass, check for delays, look up r…

"How do you do anything during that weekend, …?"

Easy, do what we did before mobile phones—civilization existed for thousands years and worked quite well without them (Rome built an empire sans mobile phones, so did the English). We even ran and coordinated the largest and most organized event in human history—WWII—without them!

Some of us have not yet succumbed to phone addiction (I often go for quite some days without using a phone and still have a normal life).

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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This is super annoying on newer iOS for device that I use purely for development. Before it was possible just keep iPhone unlocked indefenitely, but now it reboots and boom I have to use TouchID again. This is again Apple being Apple making things harder without option to disable it even when development mode is on. Has anyone found a way to bypass it?

Considering this is all about Android adopting a very similar feature, it doesn’t sound like “Apple being Apple”…

It's Apple being a trailblazer and leading the industry. Sometimes that lead is in a bad direction.
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