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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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This is a Google Play Services update. For GrapheneOS users without GApps wondering: A similar feature is already built-in: https://grapheneos.org/features#auto-reboot

Huh, I have GrapheneOS and I never noticed it rebooting. (And when i manually reboot, the "BIOS" prevents it from booting without acknowledging that I'm aware it's a non-Google OS, so how does it work?)

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#32
post #18

Wait, why is this presented as a good thing? Why would I want my phone to auto reboot without my intervention? Never mind that it’ll never make three days on a single charge even if I don’t touch it.

For when it's sitting in an evidence baggy in the police station connected to a charger waiting for forensics

If that is a good thing what does that imply about my activities (or what an utter failure your justice system is)?

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you set the time to one minute?

Not against it, but I'm genuinely curious what the use case would be for that?

I guess as a prank, just like setting the language to Chinese for English speakers.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#34
It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will.

It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in jail until he would comply with the judge order to unlock his device.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you set the time to one minute?

No, that is unrealistic. Please stop trolling

How so?

The system only reboots once it has been locked for a particular duration. Setting it to 1 minute basically says: put the system into a more secure state (e.g. purge unencrypted memory) and ensure that it is ready to go when I next need it. That said, while it is not unrealistic it would be problematic since accidentally letting the phone lock (e.g. input timeout) would result in a time consuming reboot.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

This is super annoying on newer iOS for device that I use purely for development. Before it was possible just keep iPhone unlocked indefenitely, but now it reboots and boom I have to use TouchID again.

This is again Apple being Apple making things harder without option to disable it even when development mode is on.

Has anyone found a way to bypass it?

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#38
post #18

Wait, why is this presented as a good thing? Why would I want my phone to auto reboot without my intervention? Never mind that it’ll never make three days on a single charge even if I don’t touch it.

It's very clearly explained in the article.

It is not clear to me at all why the ‘benefits’ presented outweigh the negatives (which is _my_ device doing anything without me instructing it to). Even if you can turn it off, this is apparently enabled by default.

Law enforcement keeping hold of my phone for 3 days is simply not a realistic problem for me. Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is. The chances of law enforcement wanting anything with it are low enough that dealing with an extra unlock is more likely to be an impactful issue, even considering the potential impact that law enforcement or others stealing it could have.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#39

It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

For this use case there needs to be a reasonably quick way to erase/permanently lock a phone. Or maybe it needs to be something that is both 1. Less severe than that 2. Secure against personal inducements 3. More automatic.

So maybe something like a paired app with a friend/someone who is beyond the reach of the authorities, and if the phone isn't unlocked in a given definable period (or it can be triggered immediately), it then can't be unlocked without that person's active cooperation.

That's off the top of my head, so I'm sure there are optimizations.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be able to switch this off, if you notice it being enabled, so (now you know about it) it should be a one-time downtime.

I skimmed through the docs, couldn't see anything about soaking disabling it.

It's right there in the Google System Release Notes. Quoting https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/1434... :

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### Google Play services v25.14 (2025-04-14)

#### Security & Privacy

• [Phone] Enables a future optional security feature, which will automatically restart your device if locked for 3 consecutive days.

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