How is this going to work with SIM cards that need a PIN? I'll be just unreachable until I notice the reboot?
Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#82It's not great news for my old phone used for wifi at our guesthouse (let's a few security cams and our smart lock get online)
Same here, using several old androids as hotspots here and there. They stopped receiving updates long ago though, so I'm not worried.
Its not an OS update, its a Google Play Services update .. so if they still apply you would get it
I found it strange that things like 'prettier settings screens' and 'improved connection with cars and watches' would be included in Google Play Services. Surely those things are part of the OS not part of a thing which helps you access the Play store?
I've been using a LineageOS (prev. Cyanogenmod) phone for years and have never installed any google stuff so I don't get these updates anyway.
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#83The Ars article seems to be inaccurate. Here is what the release notes say:
> Security & Privacy
> [Phone] Enables a future optional security feature, which will automatically restart your device if locked for 3 consecutive days.
So it only "enables" a "future" "optional" feature.
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I have to use TouchID again. Don’t set it up with a passcode in the first place?
Unfortunately I use Advanced Data Protection on my Apple account so I kind a need that passcode. And moving to having completely different Apple account for development is PITA.
But I think connecting a device that can be used as authentication method without choosing a defense would negate the purpose of advanced data protection of your account and other devices.
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very clearly explained in the article.
It is not clear to me at all why the ‘benefits’ presented outweigh the negatives (which is _my_ device doing anything without me instructing it to). Even if you can turn it off, this is apparently enabled by default. Law enforcement keeping hold of my phone for 3 days is simply not a realistic problem for me. Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is. The chances of law…
> Coming back to an annoyingly locked phone after forgetting it for a weekend very much is.
It is?
I mean, my iPhone asks me for my passcode every 7 days anyways. And that's the only thing that happens on reboot anyways.
Also, you forget your phone for a weekend? How do you do anything during that weekend, like keep in touch with loved ones, get driving directions, pull up a boarding pass, check for delays, look up restaurants?
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#86How is this going to work with SIM cards that need a PIN? I'll be just unreachable until I notice the reboot?
Locking the SIM is considered part of the feature on GrapheneOS AIUI
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#87It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…
This is super annoying on newer iOS for device that I use purely for development. Before it was possible just keep iPhone unlocked indefenitely, but now it reboots and boom I have to use TouchID again. This is again Apple being Apple making things harder without option to disable it even when development mode is on. Has anyone found a way to bypass it?
Do you think it's possible to jiggle it ala mouse jigglers and USB jigglers?
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#88It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…
Interestingly, it could also be seen the other way around; it's a potential way for Google to force deployments of system updates (potentially at the request of law enforcement). With an automatic reboot, then the update can automatically be applied without user action.
It's already trivial to reboot a locked android phone
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#89It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…
It's good to be able to disable this option: I use old Android phones as servers and don't want them to reboot every 3 days.
Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here, using several old androids as hotspots here and there. They stopped receiving updates long ago though, so I'm not worried.
Its not an OS update, its a Google Play Services update .. so if they still apply you would get it I found it strange that things like 'prettier settings screens' and 'improved connection with cars and watches' would be included in Google Play Services. Surely those things are part of the OS not part of a thing which helps you access the Play store? I've been using a LineageOS (prev. Cyanogenmod) phone for years and…
They've been moving more and more into Google Play Services because:
1. It's deployed to all devices and not subject to manufacturer approval for updates
2. It's easier to update without requiring user interaction or approval
3. It's closed source unlike Android so changes can't be incorporated by competitors