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Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by bawolff »

AStonesThrow wrote: post #124
Maxious wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us .us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters. .us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”. The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary. http…

I think its clear from context they mean the .us TLD, and not the root zone, since obviously it wouldn't make sense to talk about the root zone for .us.

Its also very reasonable to use the more well-known name of the parent company to describe sonething done by its subsidary.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by dtgriscom »

throw_a_grenade wrote: post #162
electroly wrote: post #118

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GoDaddy Registry operates the .us registry. You cannot have a .us domain without their involvement. Consider whether you wanted a .com domain instead (which is operated by Verisign).

zoom.com is an audio equipment manufacturer, which was there before zoom.us. I guess that's what happens where they had to accept substandard domain, because they were unwilling to be creative about their name.

I always assumed that Zoom reacted to security/privacy concerns about its association with China by getting a "*.us" domain that sounded very United States.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by areyourllySorry »

johnisgood wrote: post #161
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #52

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> But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that? Literally every single TLD is administered by a government. .com itself is under jurisdiction of USA and operated by Verisign

What about .name?

also verisign. https://icannwiki.org/.name

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by eesmith »

rhubarbtree wrote: post #165
throw_a_grenade wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

zoom.com is an audio equipment manufacturer, which was there before zoom.us. I guess that's what happens where they had to accept substandard domain, because they were unwilling to be creative about their name.

Incidentally, Zoom seems a terrible name for a video conferencing app - anyone know why they chose it?

The Wikipedia editors know, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Communications#Early_year... :

> In May 2012, the company changed its name to Zoom, influenced by Thacher Hurd's children's book Zoom City.

It cites https://vator.tv/2020-03-26-when-zoom-was-young-the-early-ye... where Jim Scheinman says:

> “I loved this fun little book as much as my kids, and hoped to use the name someday for the perfect company that embodied the same values of creativity, exploration, happiness, and trust. And the name works perfectly with a product that connects us visually to one another and that always works so fast and seamlessly.“

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by jsheard »

dtgriscom wrote: post #172
throw_a_grenade wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

zoom.com is an audio equipment manufacturer, which was there before zoom.us. I guess that's what happens where they had to accept substandard domain, because they were unwilling to be creative about their name.

I always assumed that Zoom reacted to security/privacy concerns about its association with China by getting a "*.us" domain that sounded very United States.

AFAICT they've used that domain since day one, so probably not.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by agos »

gblargg wrote: post #111
rajeshvar wrote: post #71

Flush the cache instructions were posted under zoom.us :) https://status.zoom.us/incidents/pw9r9vnq5rvk

I thought it was funny that they posted information about the outage on the same domain that had the outage.

having a status page on the same domain seems... unfortunate. Other big players have it right, see githubstatus.com

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by kowabungalow »

bjt wrote: post #140
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #126

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.us is not a root name server. The root name servers are one more degree removed.

Hence 'for .us'. The trouble with this form of pedantic is that the nicer way to interpret the misunderstanding is that the pedant is ignorant either of language or the structure of dns.

"He runs the Internet routers for our company." -> "Your company doesn't run the Internet" -> wtf?

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by immibis »

Hackbraten wrote: post #141
TheDong wrote: post #102

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MarkMonitor isn't at fault here. If you register a ".ps" domain, it doesn't matter if you use MarkMonitor or Namecheap, they can't help you when the ongoing genocide results in the removal of Palestine as a country and ".ps" no longer is a valid country code top level domain. Similarly, if you register a .us domain instead of a ".com", ".net", or ".org", MarkMonitor can't help you when GoDaddy inevitably screws up. H…

There are countries whose ccTLD registrars are impeccably well-run and have been for decades, such as DENIC, the entity that oversees the .de ccTLD. If you're based in Germany, I don't see a reason why you would want to avoid .de domains.

Them being subject to the pretty draconian laws of Germany is a minus for most people if they had no other reason to have to follow those laws (such as not being in Germany).

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by immibis »

e-brake wrote: post #153
slackr wrote: post #145

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ICJ judges in The Hague, including Israel’s appointed judge, deemed it necessary to remind Israel to respect the Palestinians’ right to not be genocided away. https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/South_Africa_v._Israel_(Ord...

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Please don't defend Hitler on Hacker News.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by ValveFan6969 »

Animats wrote: post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

Agreed. This is a whole lot of screw ups that I would have expected from the indie company down the street, not an ICANN accredited registrar. It's pretty pathetic when it takes public pressure for the ICANN to finally start doing their goddamn job.
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