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Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by SkyeCA »

ajdude wrote: post #32

A few years ago I had a .us TLD. I eventually decided that I probably shouldn't be reliant on a country code for my domain, it's the same reason why I don't use .io I'm not saying that this couldn't have happened with a gTLD But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that?

> But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that?

I tend to trust my government (Canada) and I appreciate that WHOIS information is hidden by default for .ca domains. I live here and always will so it seems fit to use the national TLD for representing myself and my work.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by barry-cotter »

sgarland wrote: post #90
jsheard wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be the first time a ccTLD has been retired after its country ceased to be, though it would be the most disruptive given how popular it is, hence the uncertainty as to what they'll do this time.

If I were Mauritius, I would be hitting tech companies left and right to secure a permanent income stream. You guys want to kick indigenous people off their land for military bases? Enjoy your new bill for .io domains.

The Chagossians are not by any meaningful standards indigenous. The land was uninhabited when George Washington was rebelling against the British. If the Chagossians are indigenous so are old stock white Americans.

And Mauritius have treated the Chagossians like dirt for decades, with no signs of that changing.

None of this is to deny the Chagossians were extremely ill treated by the British, but the idea that the Mauritanians have any interest in the welfare of the Chagossians is ridiculous.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by Koffiepoeder »

wodenokoto wrote: post #119

Would it be safer to hard-code a static IP than a domain?

Ip's can (easily) be hijacked by nefarious BGP requests and offer no easy SSL. You could maybe add cert pinning to fix that, but it's quite inflexible.

Another added bonus of domains is the potential for subdomains to be used. This could be usful for many purposes: as load balancing/pooling mechanism (fictive example us4.zoom.us) and for compartmentalisation (api.zoom.us).

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by AStonesThrow »

Maxious wrote: post #86
Animats wrote: post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

.us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters.

.us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us

And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”.

The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server

They are operated by important entities. Not companies that release sexy commercials featuring Danica Patrick. I keep getting confused between GoDaddy and Carl’s, Jr.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by NewJazz »

dawnerd wrote: post #112
Maxious wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

Wait really? I use a .us domain for personal stuff, that.. makes me want to reconsider.

Also .us domains don't have who is privacy.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

AStonesThrow wrote: post #124
Maxious wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us

> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us .us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters. .us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”. The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary. http…

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by bo0tzz »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #126
AStonesThrow wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GoDaddy runs the root dns for .us .us is not the “root DNS” and your misidentification is muddying the waters. .us is a TLD (Top-Level Domain) and more specifically, a ccTLD (cc = ‘Country Code’). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us And the English Wikipedia says that its registrar is a subsidiary of GoDaddy named “Registry Services, LLC”. The root DNS servers and registry are not run by GoDaddy or a subsidiary. http…

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That's not what they said.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by varenc »

Spooky23 wrote: post #100
eli wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the stated reason, a miscommunication with the registrar, far far more likely?

In normal times, absolutely. These aren’t normal times.

What's the escalation theory here mean? The US shut it down to damage a company it doesn't like? And 2-4 hours is meaningful? or China did it? Maybe it was shutdown and used as negotiating leverage and brought back when some agreement was reached?

GoDaddy's involvement really makes me believe that it's a genuine screw up.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

sgarland wrote: post #93
dewey wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s because you are maybe not in the market for MarkMonitor. If you check the whois for any global brands chances are they are held by MarkMonitor. Just like you don’t use EY as your tax advisor.

Genuinely, I don’t understand how anything other than uptime matters for a domain registrar. What services are they offering that makes them attractive to corporations?

Why would uptime matter that much for a registrar?

(As opposed to a DNS server, including root servers - and even then DNS has provisions for downtime, not to mention redundancy in configurations)

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