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Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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I don't want to pick on Allan Odgaard, but I think the way he's handled the TM2 project is pretty bad. Allen is a great guy and I love TM. However, here are some facts. TM2 has taken SIX YEARS. It was "90% done" 2009. This is a living, breathing case study in why quick customer-driven releases are better than "big upfront plans" and "giant system rewrites." Anyone who has developed a major application knows what I'm…

It's a famous Joel Spolsky essay: Things You Should Never Do, Part 1 [1]. Never do a full system rewrite. Pain and sadness follow.

[1]: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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post #53

I don't want to pick on Allan Odgaard, but I think the way he's handled the TM2 project is pretty bad. Allen is a great guy and I love TM. However, here are some facts. TM2 has taken SIX YEARS. It was "90% done" 2009. This is a living, breathing case study in why quick customer-driven releases are better than "big upfront plans" and "giant system rewrites." Anyone who has developed a major application knows what I'm…

I don't think one person would make a case study. Whatever his reason is, it would be a very specific personal reason. A case study of this will be just be like profiling a patient in a lab.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Yes. Did you use it for your job? How many hours did you use it? Well worth the $50

That is a terrible way to measure utility, there are so many other factors to consider. I use my keyboard for work constantly , but it is not worth more than maybe $10 to me.

That is a terrible way to measure utility, there are so many other factors to consider.

I use my keyboard for work constantly, but it is not worth more than maybe $10 to me.

I'd say his measurement of utility makes a lot more sense than yours.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Not wrong may be but definitely not logical. Its like saying "I am miffed because I paid $500 for 32 MB of RAM 10 years ago while I can now pay $100 for 2 GB of RAM". Different times, different technology.

When was the last time you looked at RAM prices? You can get 32 GB now for $100. (Complete insanity.)

Exactly. I was just a hypothetical price but you proved my point even further. Side note, I have actually not bought RAM for like ever. Its been ages :). I guess did not need to.

Re: Textmate2 Goes Open Source

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Awesome! Can someone comment on how probable it would be to port it to linux (and windows)?

Well it's all in Obj-C, so either a non-OS X Obj-C compilation tool or rewrite it out all out of Obj-C. Doable, but I don't think many people will be queuing up for the task.

Browsing through the code, Objective-C seems to be used for the UI, but the guts of the code (the Frameworks directory) is in C++.

I have mixed feelings about TextMate going open source. If QuickSilver is any indication, it will now definitely take forever for a new release. Dang! and I seriously don't like ST2.

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