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Post by kccoder »

anigbrowl wrote: post #82
lapcat wrote: post #27

> Waltz set some of the messages in the Signal group to disappear after one week, and some after four. That raises questions about whether the officials may have violated federal records law: Text messages about official acts are considered records that should be preserved. I suspect that this was the point of their using Signal, to avoid preservation of records.

SO much for 'the most transparent administration in history', not that I bought into that claim in the first place. Seems like a violation of multiple public record-keeping laws.

Trump's razor: The opposite of what he says is closer to the truth.

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Post by bayarearefugee »

dralley wrote: post #179
ipython wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t worry - this massive fuckup will surely spark numerous congressional investigations, resignations, and trigger serious reflection by the administration on their security protocols so they will comply with the necessary recordkeeping laws, confidentiality and proper handling of classified information in the future. Oh who am I kidding. Less than 8h later: “it’s just an oopsie right? No harm no foul- nothing to s…

>Less than 8h later: “it’s just an oopsie right? No harm no foul- nothing to see here folks” https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/24/congress/mi ... Oh, much worse than that. https://x.com/Acyn/status/1904309995019411933 Despite the fact that the NSC already said it appears to be legitimate, Hegseth is going into full attack mode against the "discredited, so-called journalist".

Would be great to live in a world where nearly every voter that saw the NSC response and then the Hegseth response could see the clear contradiction in responses and then make the correct interpretation that whenever these clowns are crying about hoaxes and lying media they are full of shit and 100% in CYA-mode so you should never trust them when they do this on any topic.

Of course, we don't live in that world.

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Post by JohnTHaller »

lapcat wrote: post #27

> Waltz set some of the messages in the Signal group to disappear after one week, and some after four. That raises questions about whether the officials may have violated federal records law: Text messages about official acts are considered records that should be preserved. I suspect that this was the point of their using Signal, to avoid preservation of records.

It's the whole point of using Signal and Starlink WiFi.

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Post by nkurz »

jredwards wrote: post #203
atonse wrote: post #141

Setting aside the obvious shock of the actual subject, I'm going to try the herculean task of bringing this back to being a HN-related topic... My guess is that there is someone named Jeffrey Goldberg in the NatSec team (or high up, it seems like a common combination of first and last name at least), and likely that they meant to add him, rather than the EDITOR IN CHIEF of the Atlantic of all people. Could this be a…

There is someone with the same initials, not with the same name. I saw someone else point out a potential candidate here but I don't recall the exact name.

I've seen Jamieson Greer as US Trade Representative (same initials) and Jeffrey Kruse of the Defense Intelligence Agency (same first name) mentioned as possibly being the intended invitee.

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Post by more_corn »

xnx wrote: post #195
anigbrowl wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SO much for 'the most transparent administration in history', not that I bought into that claim in the first place. Seems like a violation of multiple public record-keeping laws.

On the other hand, directly sharing war plans with the press is about as transparent as you can get.

I would love for them to say that. Awe heck it was about transparency, we’re doing that from now on.

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Post by rasz »

ceejayoz wrote: post #19

> In his text detailing aspects of the forthcoming attack on Houthi targets, Hegseth wrote to the group—which, at the time, included me—“We are currently clean on OPSEC.” Simply incredible. This is wild.

he said similar thing on his confirmation hearing

"My commitment is to not touch alcohol while I have this position"

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Post by [deleted] »

dralley wrote: post #179
ipython wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t worry - this massive fuckup will surely spark numerous congressional investigations, resignations, and trigger serious reflection by the administration on their security protocols so they will comply with the necessary recordkeeping laws, confidentiality and proper handling of classified information in the future. Oh who am I kidding. Less than 8h later: “it’s just an oopsie right? No harm no foul- nothing to s…

>Less than 8h later: “it’s just an oopsie right? No harm no foul- nothing to see here folks” https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/24/congress/mi ... Oh, much worse than that. https://x.com/Acyn/status/1904309995019411933 Despite the fact that the NSC already said it appears to be legitimate, Hegseth is going into full attack mode against the "discredited, so-called journalist".

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