This is just unreal. Ridiculous!
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#22This is an insane story demonstrating extraordinary incompetence, not to mention revealing some rather comical beliefs about American exceptionalism. It's on the bottom of the third page, pushed down by flags. During any other administration, such a disastrously , criminally incompetent use of technology would have been top of the front page for days, but this administration is so cosmically incompetent that pointing…
Not just days - months.
We saw A1 headlines for months about Clinton's emails. Often daily.
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#23The whole thread is WILD, and the fact that it was verified is crazy. But the actual text of the thread is horrifying: On one hand, they say they complain about "bailing out Europe". But on the other hand, they explicitly moved up the timeline so they could move before other actors and take credit. > "If the US successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost there needs to be some further economic gain extr…
The US is primarily attacking Houthis to support Israel and not Europe. Vance knows that. J.D. Vance comes of as a rabid anti-Europeanist in his speeches, tweets, and apparently also his private messages. Here in Denmark the authorities reported that his wife, Usha Vance, is tied to an unusual money transfer and upcoming meeting with Greenlandic separatists.
No, I'm pretty sure this is actually about shipping lanes and freedom of navigation. Israel doesn't need the help.
If you read the story, one of their concerns is that if they don't act, Israel was going to instead.
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#24That is absolutely wild. How is this not on the front page?
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#25This was such a weird news story to read. At least they used Signal? That's gotta be a plus at some level. Unrelated, but I wonder how the gray hat market for Signal vulns is doing now?
Signal is primarily for end-to-end encryption.
If a device has been compromised, the database can be extracted with all messages and contacts
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#26That is absolutely wild. How is this not on the front page?
HN front page is curated manually.
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#27> Waltz set some of the messages in the Signal group to disappear after one week, and some after four. That raises questions about whether the officials may have violated federal records law: Text messages about official acts are considered records that should be preserved.
I suspect that this was the point of their using Signal, to avoid preservation of records.
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#28Staggering display of incompetence and carelessness. And unfortunately, one that we’re unlikely to get much transparency about, in terms of how such an operational screwup was allowed to happen. > At 11:44 a.m., the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” posted in Signal a “TEAM UPDATE.” I will not quote from this update, or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an a…
Is this worst than using Top Secret documents as toilet paper?
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/FyM1h-C...
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#29This is an insane story demonstrating extraordinary incompetence, not to mention revealing some rather comical beliefs about American exceptionalism. It's on the bottom of the third page, pushed down by flags. During any other administration, such a disastrously , criminally incompetent use of technology would have been top of the front page for days, but this administration is so cosmically incompetent that pointing…
Not just days - months. We saw A1 headlines for months about Clinton's emails. Often daily.
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#30This would be unbelievable in a normal administration. The combination of flagrant lawbreaking and incompetence is just so characteristic of these clowns. No, nothing in the Clinton email scandal comes close to cabinet secretaries accidentally real-time texting imminent war plans to journalists using a non-governmental system with auto-deleting messages.
¯\(ツ)/¯ Plenty of people in Trump's own cabinet used private email servers too, but no one cared.
As always, it's only a problem when a Democrat does it.