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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Part of the irony here is that Elon Musk himself seems to be "speaking plainly" and receiving death threats for doing so. But I assume you'd prefer he didn't speak plainly...?

Funny how the richest person in the world feels less of a chilling effect than career staff at federal agencies! What makes you think I'd prefer that he not speak plainly? I'd certainly prefer that he: 1. Not break a bunch of laws while running the government (while having a totally unclear official role?). 2. Not use his control of twitter's algorithm to push his own political priorities. 3. Not use his wealth and b…

Thanks for clarifying. I totally understand that you would feel that way and have those preferences.

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Even today this topic is often brought up in rap lyrics. Quest's last album had a song called "The Space Program" which featured the hook: "There ain't a space program for niggas Yeah, you stuck here, nigga" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song)

I particularly like how they use `space` in two different ways, from Q-Tip's second verse: These notions and ideas and citizens live in space I chuckle just like all of y'all, absurdity, after all Takes money to get it running and money for trees to fall Imagine for one second all the people are colored, please Imagine for one second all the people in poverty No matter the skin tone, culture or time zone Think the on…

Yes the layered meaning is beautiful. It's both a meta point on the verse itself as well as a criticism about the political motivations behind "the space program"

Thanks for posting it here

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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> I am not the source of the common meaning of the term, The accuracy of your claim regarding common meaning is being disputed. You might notice that well over half of the quote you pasted from Britannica is referring to totalitarian, not authoritarian, regimes. Nowhere does it say anything like "the term authoritarian regime is commonly taken to imply".

As mentioned, the most notable examples all conform to the common definition as does every other result on the front page of Google for the term. You are welcome to dispute all of them if you want to, but I’m not going to spend time on it. You are using hyperbole at best and simply lying at worst and you know this. You can jump on any English language search engine, discover what the common meaning of the term ‘autho…

I don't think the way you're approaching this is in keeping with HN guidelines.

You seem to have jumped straight from "everyone agrees with my view" to "the people who disagree with me are acting in bad faith", skipping the much more likely "other people hold views that differ from my own".

As a native English speaker who lives in the US I don't need to check a search engine to understand the common meaning of the term. Sometimes people have different impressions of these things. About the only thing you could attempt to argue is that I'm in the extreme minority. I don't think you'd get very far with that though because it's unlikely that you have the evidence to back up such a claim.

For all your apparent outrage the Oxford example that you cited is the closest you've come to presenting valid evidence in support of your position. However if you examine the paragraph just above your quote you will see that it is rather academic in nature. Having glanced at it I can't say that the description presented matches what I encounter in common usage by laymen. (I include myself in that category. I am by no means a political scientist or remotely well studied.)

More generally, I think you've picked a fundamentally unwinnable position here. All it takes for me to be correct (and you to be demonstrably in the wrong) is for people in the area where I live to commonly use the terminology in the way I'm describing. And indeed they do, because I'm in a fairly far left part of the country.

Now you can certainly object that the population at large where I live is misusing the term. But without a central governing body for the language that's going to be extremely difficult to argue. Either way it won't change common usage here. It's simply the difference between "commonly used in that manner" versus "commonly used in that manner, incorrectly".

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If Elon recognized that he had the social skills of an NPC and had hired a PR team, we would probably all still adore him and likely he would still just be doing engineering company stuff. Take heed, if you have money, power, and poor social skills, hire people to manage it for you.

Sad world where people expects successful people to hire a PR team just to be liked.

> just to be liked

It's not merely about "likability" but more about carefully controlling the messaging, and avoiding controversies or really bad missteps.

A defendant or plaintiff can choose to remain totally silent in a court of law and speak through their attorney. The attorney filters what their client has to say, recasts it in legal terminology, and everything the attorney says and does should protect the interests of the client and the court, in opposition to the other side.

It's also about a division of labor: for God's sake, what CEO/politician/bishop wants to open all his own mail when a secretary can filter it? What CEO is going to read social media all day and respond to their DMs? Waste of a salary! Does Mr. Musk or President Trump really write all the covfefe on his own, or does he employ ghost writers? How would we know?

A PR firm likewise has a fiduciary and legal duty to protect the interests of an entity, to keep them out of litigous entanglements, and yes, to put on the best public face that they can in order to 'be liked'. Unless the org has some weird reason to play the villain or adversary in some way, and likability is not an ultimate goal, such as a gangsta rapper with a public beef, I suppose. They still use social media to sell music.

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I perfectly understand the metaphor but machine already replace human in factory on earth, why do you think human can work in the 10x times worse condition in space??? also if you born poor in earth, many people would take a chance to do space industry at all in the future despite the risk

The machine is great at doing one specific, repetitive task. Humans are currently much, much better at doing varied, unexpected tasks. We will at some point likely get more universal robotics, but right now I think there's a very good chance we'll get humans to Mars before we get the robots to work.

"The machine is great at doing one specific, repetitive task."

Yeah that's why we build trillion dollar industry to make it 'think'

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I'm not an American and I'm not expressing my likes or dislikes in this matter. I'm interested in seeing a healthy America. I'm interested in the details, drama, action, science and politics which trickles down or across to the rest of us in the world. You mention morality, but then say my "likes" are nonsense. You've even pushed me into the "rant" and "hate" zone! I'm trying to have a civil discussion about curious…

My entire line of commenting has been based in: Prove fraud. The post I originally replied to accused fraud. There is a legal definition of fraud - so prove it. Everything you're going on about has nothing to do with fraud, and is 100% irrelevant since its not about evidence of fraud. I mentioned morality of loopholes because to me your question looked like some sort of end-run around providing evidence of fraud. Tha…

> Prove the claimed fraud.

This is a forum not a court of law. You're hung up on "fraud" and lost sight of the discussion.

Sometimes "fraud" is, for the time being, billowing black smoke. There's a small chance it's a harmless smoke machine, not a fire. Some will cling to that hope, but many others will yell fire.

The process with DOGE is unfolding, so hang tight! Surely you agree "efficiency" would be a good outcome. They're aiming for a tight ship not a cash-haemorrhaging behemoth.

Let Musk work on it for a bit. Heckle later if he doesn't get results. I'll join you in heckling, but for now it's great what they're doing. Shocking that Teslas are burning.

You originally replied to someone who asked "How much fraud and abuse...", so they weren't tethered to only "fraud", they were talking about the generally alarming and wasteful spending of the public's money.

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