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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by cco »

piokoch wrote: post #276

There are certain historical inadequacies in the article. "That is, the Apollo Program brought the country together in the turbulent 1960s and helped make everyone feel good about the country" This certainly was not 100% true, as some communities protested against Apollo program [1], even though, overall, the progress it has caused helped eventually those communities as well. Nevertheless there were kind of bipartisa…

The late 60s definitely qualify as turbulent. What is your claim in the negative?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by nailer »

hysan wrote: post #344

Honest question - when I compare the comments here to other threads that have been presumably flagged for political reasons, the discussions don’t look all that dissimilar. There’s no technical discussion and everything devolves into political chatter. Why are other posts flagged but this one not?

Either not enough flags (it's an article about space, not politics), or dang manually removes flags (he commented recently that he does this). I think the former, the latter usually happens when th article itself is political.

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

abecedarius wrote: post #341
weberer wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"We're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America," she said. >Ah, yes. The Gulf of America. >This is why we can't have nice things. That doesn't sound like an "excellent journalist". It sounds like a Redditor.

Berger wrote two books on SpaceX in a very positive light generally, portraying Musk as extraordinarily driven and capable though not passing over less admirable traits. Berger is not a hater.

Prior to DOGE? That is really the question.

Once a favorable celebrity wears the Red or ventures near the Orange the script is rewritten.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by nailer »

rob74 wrote: post #191
throwaway73750 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>unless you want to abandon and decommission it, that is, but nobody (except Elon Musk) is suggesting to do that at this point in time... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39474840 NASA will retire the ISS soon (npr.org) Feb 22, 2024

In this case, "soon" means 2030, which is the planned "retirement" date. Musk suggests to do it even sooner, in two year's time (that would be 2027).

That's not a huge difference.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by Workaccount2 »

ta1243 wrote: post #334
indoordin0saur wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

It seemed to all start going wrong with "pedo guy". Before then Musk was doing great things at Tesla and SpaceX. After that he started getting more and more unhinged, leading through to buying twitter, then trying to get out of it, then doubling down.

If Elon recognized that he had the social skills of an NPC and had hired a PR team, we would probably all still adore him and likely he would still just be doing engineering company stuff.

Take heed, if you have money, power, and poor social skills, hire people to manage it for you.

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Post by yibg »

exodust wrote: post #364
indoordin0saur wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

> recent (regrettable) turn It's only regrettable through the lens of partisan politics. DOGE is undeniably a good concept. You will notice governments around the world copying the method. That is, launching initiatives to audit everything, cut wasteful spending, expose corrupt spending, and trim bureaucratic inefficiency via external oversight. It would be regrettable not to undertake the task.

Audit -> glance at program names to decide if they are worthy or not?

Cut wasteful spending -> things Musk doesn’t like? Or people responsible for safely handling nuclear waste?

Expose corrupt spending -> would be nice to get a report of this

Trim bureaucratic inefficiency -> like firing people and then having to hire them back?

I can get behind the concept of DOGE. But that’s not what DOGE is actually doing.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by bigmattystyles »

echoangle wrote: post #297
somenameforme wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's way more than just them. Thanks to all the delays the 4-man SpaceX Crew-8 [1] stayed on the ISS until October 23rd, becoming the longest Dragon stay ever. And the 3-man crew from Soyuz MS-26 got there on September 11th, and is still there. In fact reading the Soyuz MS-26 Wiki, one of the many records this whole debacle ended up breaking is that when the MS-26 entered into space, there were more humans in spac…

Did you read my comment? Currently, there is one Dragon and one Soyuz docked to the ISS. If Crew-9 had left earlier, before the Crew-10 Dragon had arrived, there would have been only the Soyuz left.

Do the Soyuz still touch down in a desert in a place like Kazakhstan or do they touch down on water nowadays? The desert solid ground touch downs seem so brutal.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by queuebert »

throwway120385 wrote: post #295
queuebert wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's true, why did the astronauts confirm Musk's version of the story in an interview? Genuinely asking ...

What interview? Can you link it?

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1897470032612851893

(Note: I don't know anything about the X account. It was just the first result I found.)

Edit: Also it sucks that I can't ask a genuine question on this website without getting downvoted to oblivion. Whatever the answer, it would be nice to get it without being judged.

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Post by bigmattystyles »

bheadmaster wrote: post #350
walls wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it shows they weren't manipulating NASA for political points.

That does not make sense. Did they care more about "not manipulating NASA for political points" than about astronauts who were stuck in space for 9 months, with all the harmful effects that it entails?

To be fair, death from re-entry is pretty bad for your health as well.

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Post by chris_va »

exodust wrote: post #364
indoordin0saur wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

> recent (regrettable) turn It's only regrettable through the lens of partisan politics. DOGE is undeniably a good concept. You will notice governments around the world copying the method. That is, launching initiatives to audit everything, cut wasteful spending, expose corrupt spending, and trim bureaucratic inefficiency via external oversight. It would be regrettable not to undertake the task.

Maybe

Audit committees have been around forever, because people think they are a good concept. A large fraction of the (time) cost in government (or dealing with the government) is dealing with initiatives to audit everything, and cut wasteful spending.

Not to say that eliminating waste isn't a good concept, but do not conflate the _idea_ of eliminating waste with any one particular implementation.

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