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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by troupo »

bheadmaster wrote: post #355
troupo wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All you said are literally in the descriptions of the jobs they signed up for. They literally train for multiple gruesome death scenarios as part of their training. Not just "well, your 8-day stay has now become several months"

Just because they signed up for it, doesn't mean we shouldn't try our best to prevent it. Staying for 9 months in space is not a small deal for people's health.

So NASA did indeed try to prevent it, and weighed it against a multitude of other considerations, and actual experts running actual missions have explicitly and patiently explained the what, the how, and the why.

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Post by gwill »

exodust wrote: post #364
indoordin0saur wrote: post #316

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Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

> recent (regrettable) turn It's only regrettable through the lens of partisan politics. DOGE is undeniably a good concept. You will notice governments around the world copying the method. That is, launching initiatives to audit everything, cut wasteful spending, expose corrupt spending, and trim bureaucratic inefficiency via external oversight. It would be regrettable not to undertake the task.

There are no audits, there are no reports, there is little to no transparency with DOGE. They're gutting first, thinking later and it's costing us a ton. How can you trust an administration to expose corrupt spending when they freeze the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act?

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Post by weberer »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #85
lurker_jMckQT99 wrote: post #82

The drone footage is absolutely amazing (as compared to any other camera angle from the recovery boat where you would expect to have better quality but was actually awful). I had trouble, for a moment, believing that it was not CGIed. Is there any information about what drone/camera equipment was used?

It won't play for me. Has it been uploaded anywhere else?

Here's the source

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1902026377685295527

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by echoangle »

bigmattystyles wrote: post #377
echoangle wrote: post #297

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Did you read my comment? Currently, there is one Dragon and one Soyuz docked to the ISS. If Crew-9 had left earlier, before the Crew-10 Dragon had arrived, there would have been only the Soyuz left.

Do the Soyuz still touch down in a desert in a place like Kazakhstan or do they touch down on water nowadays? The desert solid ground touch downs seem so brutal.

Soyuz is always landing on ground (except in emergencies, and Soyuz 23 broke through a frozen lake). They do have Retro rockets that are fired shortly before contact and dampened Seats, but from the reports I heard, it's still a very rough landing.

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Post by altcognito »

weberer wrote: post #183
pavlov wrote: post #86

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Berger is an excellent journalist. He’s very knowledgeable about space topics, has good sources, and has been extremely fair to Musk in the past. When he says it’s a “throne of lies”, a line has been crossed.

>"We're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America," she said. >Ah, yes. The Gulf of America. >This is why we can't have nice things. That doesn't sound like an "excellent journalist". It sounds like a Redditor.

An excellent journalist recognizes that the President can't unilaterally rename internationally recognized bodies of water.

What is the complaint? You don't like the style of rebuking this ridiculous behavior?

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Post by wang_li »

troupo wrote: post #312
erupt7893 wrote: post #258

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Standard rotations are about 6 months - Butch and Suni were supposed to be up there for 8 days... Their families, their lives, and everything normal for way longer than planned. Health routines or not, that’s a brutal toll—mentally, emotionally, not just bones and muscles. Stop downplaying it like it’s no big deal

All you said are literally in the descriptions of the jobs they signed up for. They literally train for multiple gruesome death scenarios as part of their training. Not just "well, your 8-day stay has now become several months"

>All you said are literally in the descriptions of the jobs they signed up for.

Dismissing every exceptional circumstance as "the jobs they signed up for." is absurd. That's like saying the crash of flight 5342 that killed 67 people is what those passengers signed up for, so it's no big deal.

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Post by kergonath »

bheadmaster wrote: post #273
wat10000 wrote: post #224

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I can’t believe anyone took these claims seriously for even a moment. Musk was a bullshitter even at his best, and he has fallen far from that peak in the past couple of years. Just go to his Twitter feed and see an unending stream of absolute nonsense. Trump shows no indication that he even understands the concept of truth. And yet somehow people manage to say, “NASA says X, Musk and Trump say Y, who knows who’s rig…

In a situation where everyone has an incentive to lie, there's no reason to believe anyone. Musk and Trump have a history of exaggarating, to say it lightly, but NASA, like most of the government entities, hasn't been transparent with their internal processes either. I see no reason to trust either of them.

> In a situation where everyone has an incentive to lie, there's no reason to believe anyone.

There is only one side with an incentive to lie, and that is only because they started lying and now they cannot stop without losing face.

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Post by jandrese »

torben-friis wrote: post #213
flanked-evergl wrote: post #140

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Like?

Didn’t he very publicly offer to fund fixing world hunger then ignored it when an NGO came up with an actual plan?

I assume you are referring to this: https://truthout.org/articles/musk-pledged-6b-to-solve-world...

As a response to this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/04/26/elon-musk-hunger/

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Post by magicmicah85 »

Those cheers after the drogue chutes deploy have got to be the best feeling of relief an engineer has ever felt. You can plan, test and validate each others work for years but when it’s finally lives on the line, all you’ve got left while waiting is a wish, hope or prayer everything goes right. Congrats to the SpaceX team and NASA for another successful splashdown.

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Post by grandiego »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #375
ta1243 wrote: post #334

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It seemed to all start going wrong with "pedo guy". Before then Musk was doing great things at Tesla and SpaceX. After that he started getting more and more unhinged, leading through to buying twitter, then trying to get out of it, then doubling down.

If Elon recognized that he had the social skills of an NPC and had hired a PR team, we would probably all still adore him and likely he would still just be doing engineering company stuff. Take heed, if you have money, power, and poor social skills, hire people to manage it for you.

Sad world where people expects successful people to hire a PR team just to be liked.
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