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Post by pie_flavor »

pveierland wrote: post #76

Eric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...

Prior to Musk's shift to the right, Ars ran frequent Musk puff pieces; post shift, they run frequent Musk hit pieces. It's just as grating, and when every other news org is reporting it more measuredly you should be very cautious before calling their summary 'good'. For example, this article claims the political reasons are unspecified, but they were in fact discussed at length (I think Musk even mentioned them on a podcast at the time, though can't remember which one).

The choices were whether to leave them up there longer as the next crew rotation, or let them come home and send up another crew like normal. One would save the government the cost of a new Crew Dragon launch (not insignificant - $100m-150m), and the other would save NASA's valuable astronauts from the long term health effects of a year in space (usually crews are rotated every six months for health reasons, like bone density and muscle mass problems).

NASA reported that the factor keeping them from being brought home was cost, and they didn't have the $100m for a new Dragon launch in the budget. But this was bunk. The next launch was already budgeted for, because this is on a well-planned-for rotation. It could have been because they wanted to keep the $100m, but if they falsely claimed it wasn't budgeted for, then (as Musk postulated) it's a good bet that the real reason is that this would have been a big PR win for Musk, saving America's cherished astronauts from Boeing's massive screwup, and since he had already begun bankrolling Trump's campaign, Biden did not want him to have this PR win.

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Post by mirekrusin »

exodust wrote: post #88
pveierland wrote: post #76

Eric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...

The topic is "crew returns to Earth" not arstechnica's routine political spin. Does arstechnica mention the dolphins even once? Nope. How about Trump? Six times ! Meanwhile, sibling comment applauds the writer for his "knowledge of space topics".

1. Crew cleans capsule from toxic fuel

2. Oh look cute dolphins came to watch

…are they dead now?

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Post by torben-friis »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #140
exe34 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"free". Elon Musk offers a lot of things for free, and then turns out you have to pay anyway.

Like?

Didn’t he very publicly offer to fund fixing world hunger then ignored it when an NGO came up with an actual plan?

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Post by bsdice »

pveierland wrote: post #76

Eric Berger has a good summary on the narrative: https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/can-nasa-remain-nonpar...

Just another example of the US government stuffing media and the public and also foreign countries with three outrageous 'things' per day. It's exactly like the quote from a famous movie where Gust Avrakotos says that if you present three scandals in the left hand, you can park an aircraft carrier behind your right hand and nobody will notice.

Claiming the astronauts where stranded by the Biden admin is just one of those things for the left hand. Of course had Kate dared call it the Gulf of Mexico, she'd be in serious trouble only an hour later. Defiantly, without a job two hours later once CEO heard from lower management.

Something any dictator sooner or later gets into serious trouble, because he is only surrounded by obedient people from his bubble. Warping the view of reality. All others fell out a window or best case, got fired.

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Post by tonyhart7 »

bravetraveler wrote: post #209
tonyhart7 wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh yes lets send a spaceship that full of leading edge tech with unskilled human labor, sounds about right maybe you must see real world first, drinkable water and plant is literally of the most rare thing in the universe surpassing mineral and metal, one of the most abundant things in space

The unskilled labor would be the parents, but I can tell the metaphor is lost. Not sure why I bother explaining that.

I perfectly understand the metaphor but machine already replace human in factory on earth, why do you think human can work in the 10x times worse condition in space???

also if you born poor in earth, many people would take a chance to do space industry at all in the future despite the risk

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Post by iszomer »

BasilofBasiley wrote: post #130
rdtsc wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was space not political?

All the time. Nothing political about the Punch mission, or the current solar maximum spewing out a bunch of flares last year. Actually it's a bit of a shame the Punch mission wasn't launched sooner, so we could see amazing flares in 3D. But that's just me, I like sun stuff. The point is, if you seek political stuff you'll find it, even a political spin on a recent flare that is being yet again compared to the Carrin…

Not political? Read back on the American hysteria and subsequent response to the launch of Sputnik 1.

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

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Post by weregiraffe »

yard2010 wrote: post #139

> Kate Tice, an engineer from SpaceX on the webcast, noted that touchdown was imminent. "We're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America," she said. Ah, yes. The Gulf of America. This is why we can't have nice things. Haha you got to love the timeline we're living at.

Why, a gulf is not a nice thing?

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Post by libertine »

lordfrito wrote: post #198

By any reasonable definition, these astronauts were stranded. If people can be stranded in an airport due to a plane being grounded, then they can be stranded on a space station for the same reason. I mean, they're in orbit , it's not like they could simply walk home. The mental gymnastics on display in this thread reminds me of the Narcissists Prayer. The astronauts weren't stranded in space for 9 months. And if the…

> The stakes are real, lives are at risk, families impacted.

So let's keep in mind the risk and sacrifices these people make throughout their lives, only to have Elon at any moment accusing them of being traitors.[0]

[0]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/elon-musk-calls-ma...

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Post by derektank »

DSingularity wrote: post #196
bradhe wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like a different timeline, please.

What if the others were terminated by nuclear war?

This only seems plausible if your subscribe to Anthroponuclear Multiple Worlds Theory

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/history-is-weird

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