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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by rob74 »

throwaway73750 wrote: post #149
rob74 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has to be someone on the ISS at all times - unless you want to abandon and decommission it, that is, but nobody (except Elon Musk) is suggesting to do that at this point in time...

>unless you want to abandon and decommission it, that is, but nobody (except Elon Musk) is suggesting to do that at this point in time... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39474840 NASA will retire the ISS soon (npr.org) Feb 22, 2024

In this case, "soon" means 2030, which is the planned "retirement" date. Musk suggests to do it even sooner, in two year's time (that would be 2027).

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by porphyra »

n4r9 wrote: post #187
porphyra wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not forget that right now it seems that only SpaceX is putting in the "monumental efforts" to advance the "pioneeribg industry", being responsible for the vast majority of launches, the only safe crewed spacecraft, as well as pushing the frontier of space travel with ambitious new projects such as Starship.

Just last year NASA launched the largest ever interplanetary space-craft, and hopefully the first craft to approach and conduct scientific studies on Europa. SpaceX is almost entirely focused on getting humans into space - which is great - but NASA's work is not to be discounted.

The Europa Clipper is really cool. I think the Cassini Huygens that launched in 1997 has greater mass though.

SpaceX isn't entirely focused on getting humans to space since they launch the vast majority of satellites thanks to great innovations in reducing the cost of launches, such as reusable rockets. But there are some competitor launch vehicles coming soon that could be interesting as well.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by sethammons »

exodust wrote: post #173
fabian2k wrote: post #99

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Musk and Trump made this political, not Eric Berger.

Again, the topic is "crew returning to Earth." You, Berger, and whoever posted the arstechnica link have brought politics to the party. I liked how they had a drone circling the recovery activity at the splashdown site. All live-streamed for our informed entertainment. SpaceX is undeniably doing a great job, although the starship explosions in our atmosphere I'm not a fan of, I look forward to that not happening.

The arstechnica article is in response to a truth social post by the president where President Trump makes this political by blaming Biden.

Trump is stirring shit with lies to sway the public.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by rob74 »

lupusreal wrote: post #190
rob74 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There has to be someone on the ISS at all times - unless you want to abandon and decommission it, that is, but nobody (except Elon Musk) is suggesting to do that at this point in time...

NASA awarded the deorbit contract to SpaceX during the Biden administration. The ISS is coming down whether you like it or not. The more you knew about this, the more you'd be okay with it. The station was obsolete before it was even built. NASA likes to justify the space station as a laboratory studying the effects of longterm space flight on humans; the results were in decades ago: it fucks people up. Human bodies…

Well, okay, the same arguments can be used to question why we need (crewed) space exploration at all. It's extremely expensive, it doesn't really bring any new scientific data. We've been to the Moon already, and what there is still to know about it can also be learned with robotic probes. Same goes for mining. Exploring Mars can also be done very well without involving humans. Colonization, you say? Maybe fix our problems on Earth first before "infecting" other planets with our species?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by creesch »

someperson wrote: post #120
pavlov wrote: post #86

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Berger is an excellent journalist. He’s very knowledgeable about space topics, has good sources, and has been extremely fair to Musk in the past. When he says it’s a “throne of lies”, a line has been crossed.

Just noting 'throne of lies' is a subheading and not in the body of the article. I don't know how Ars Technica does things, but in some news outlets a separate editor have control over titles and subheading rather than the author of the article.

I mean, if you read the rest of the article the subheading fits. So, it doesn't really change the message.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by DSingularity »

bradhe wrote: post #161
yard2010 wrote: post #139

> Kate Tice, an engineer from SpaceX on the webcast, noted that touchdown was imminent. "We're going to stand by for splashdown located in the Gulf of America," she said. Ah, yes. The Gulf of America. This is why we can't have nice things. Haha you got to love the timeline we're living at.

I would like a different timeline, please.

What if the others were terminated by nuclear war?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by ceejayoz »

ranguna wrote: post #144
adastra22 wrote: post #45

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And loved every minute of being up there. They were promised 8 days in space and got 8 months doing awesome science on the ISS. They’re astronauts; they live for this stuff.

Did someone ask them to really know they liked the unplanned stay or are we all just making things up?

They did say this on more than one interview.

It is, to be fair, part of their job to put on a happy face.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by lordfrito »

By any reasonable definition, these astronauts were stranded. If people can be stranded in an airport due to a plane being grounded, then they can be stranded on a space station for the same reason. I mean, they're in orbit, it's not like they could simply walk home.

The mental gymnastics on display in this thread reminds me of the Narcissists Prayer.

   The astronauts weren't stranded in space for 9 months.
   And if they were, they were lucky and enjoyed their extended vacation.
   And if they didn't, it's not a big deal it comes with the job.
   And if it is a big deal, it's not Nasa's/Boeings fault.
   And if it was, it's not political.
   And if it is, Elon shouldn't be credited for SpaceX bringing them back.
   And if he should, he doesn't deserve it.
Personally I'm just glad seeing them come home. The stakes are real, lives are at risk, families impacted. Didn't one of the astronauts miss his 30-year wedding anniversary?

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by simianparrot »

ranguna wrote: post #148
simianparrot wrote: post #47

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They were practically stuck, they just didn’t «feel» stuck or abandoned. What a joke of an article.

Doesn't the ISS always have a return ship or two in case of emergencies?

Yes but if they’d used that the remaining astronauts would not have it. Saying they weren’t stuck because there was one life boat is disingenuous, because zero lifeboats for the crew that were to remain is unacceptable.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by kelseydh »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #152
kelseydh wrote: post #8

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Feels more like getting an extended vacation getting to do the coolest thing you can do as a human.

Destroying your body so cool bro bwahaha "Another astronaut comments on what the Crew-9 people can expect: "The returning astronauts will "struggle to walk, get dizzy easily, and have bad eyesight", because the "build-up of fluid changes the shape of their eyeballs, and weakens their vision". They may need glasses for the rest of their lives.""

They knew these risks when they signed up, and the queue of people dreaming to be astronauts despite these risks is enormous. Some crew members coming back on this mission had gone multiple times.
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