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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by jnsie »

kwanbix wrote: post #175
solarkraft wrote: post #57

Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it…

I came to say Core 2 Duo is a terrible name :/

Same. It neither describes the product nor makes it easier to search for online. For that matter, it doesn't exactly roll of the tongue either...

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

I ordered one, with no experience although like the story and heard about the original.

One very frustrating concern - the warranty. This is $255+ for a device that is only good for 3 million seconds. Would it be possible to arrange replacement at cost after 2 years?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by lolinder »

lostphilosopher wrote: post #190

I was surprised at the time how cheap the original Pebbles were, they were nearly exactly what I wanted and I would have been willing to pay more for mine. In fact I ultimately paid more to replace mine with a watch I like less. When Pebble folded I wondered if having too low of price ultimately hurt them - if they didn't pick up enough customers to make up on volume what they left off the table on per-unit revenue?…

> I'm setting aside the caveat about a potential price change due to tariffs and assuming they launch at current list price

As you should, because if they raise the price because of tariffs they won't see a dime of it. It's less raising the price and more that they don't yet know how much tax they'll be expected to collect and remit.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by cenamus »

beambot wrote: post #180
nebulous1 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$100 profit on a $150 watch would be crazy. Rest of the post seems made up too. I don't know where these numbers are coming from. I'm genuinely confused.

MSRP of 3x COGS is a pretty common rule of thumb for hardware. Have to leave room for distribution, software, R&D, returns, SG&A, etc. End of the day, it's probably still only 30-40% gross margin -- less than half of a good SaaS company. Hardware is (indeed!) hard.

But then how could you call that 100 profit in any way? If you made at most like 30-50?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

#195

Post by xattt »

jnsie wrote: post #191
kwanbix wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to say Core 2 Duo is a terrible name :/

Same. It neither describes the product nor makes it easier to search for online. For that matter, it doesn't exactly roll of the tongue either...

They knew what they were doing.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by ghilston »

solarkraft wrote: post #57

Core 2 Duo is a pretty funny name. Are you going to sell replacement parts this time? I was immensely disappointed to see the initial watches being pretty repairable in theory, but no parts being sold. It was marketed as a tinkerer‘s device after all. I’m wearing my Pebble Time Steel right now - and quite like it. Haven’t found anything better. It could use some better activity tracking, but the worst thing about it…

I have an original backer watch and bought one when they launched. Both stopped working within maybe 6 months and support at the time suggested I just buy another...

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by kubatyszko »

erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

I remember that my Pebble 2 (HR) over time (pun intended) would develop play around the rubber button area especially on the right side. Eventually the rubber covering the buttons would break off. This was common to the point people were making 3d-printed replacement parts. See https://help.rebble.io/pebble-2-buttons/ What's the expected longevity of the buttons this time around, and will you have replacement parts available ?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by erohead »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #192
erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

I ordered one, with no experience although like the story and heard about the original. One very frustrating concern - the warranty. This is $255+ for a device that is only good for 3 million seconds. Would it be possible to arrange replacement at cost after 2 years?

I have no reason to think that it will not work well for 2 years, but I am not prepared to guarantee that in a warranty. That would be taking on too much risk as a small company.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

#199

Post by erohead »

happosai wrote: post #183
erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

Gadgetbridge support (or open docs of the BLE interface for dyi) planned? https://gadgetbridge.org/

The new watches will use the exact same protocol as Pebble watches, so Gadgetbridge should work by default.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

#200

Post by hombre_fatal »

nottorp wrote: post #179
hombre_fatal wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, those questions are answered at point of sale in the US like when you click a Checkout button or you're at the cash register. Prices changing after a preorder is completely different and not anything US specific.

Well in europe letting me know what the real price is only at the cash register and not when I check out the product in the store is as unusual as your problem with import duties :) I think it may even be illegal for consumer prices. What they display or list in the contract is what you pay. But on the other hand I'm used to paying import taxes separately when ordering something from outside the EU.

Yes, Americans don't know the exact price of the products in their cart between the 10min they put the items in their cart and when they check out. They know it will be a little more and they mentally budget for it.

But that doesn't have much to do with a price increasing weeks or months after paying for a preorder.

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