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Post by yndoendo »

bsenftner wrote: post #267

This event has been written on the walls of the USA since those smart speakers and cel phones first appeared. The average US citizen has been conditioned to believe the 'regulation' is 'evil government' and not protection from established abusive practices - that's how regulations get created: someone (usually a corporation) abuses a public resource or good so extremely that laws are written to prevent that. Of cours…

A truly strong national security requires an intelligent populous that can apply critical thinking skills. This is why I have never heard any politicians talk about this and only apply a pseudo national security agenda.

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Post by throwawayffffas »

bognition wrote: post #262
throwawayffffas wrote: post #253

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I mean you can eat GDP and sleep under it. That's what it measures production.

Estimated GDP in 2024 28.9 T vs 2025 of 13.3 T That’s a huge gain in 20 years. Where is the commensurate equivalent growth in housing, education, healthcare, cheap food, etc… There is a huge disconnect between GDP increase and the economic pressure the majority of Americans feel.

The richest man in the world in 2008 was Warren Buffett with a net worth of 62 billion dollars. Now with 62 billion you are not even in the top 20. So the growth went into wealth inequality.

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

eadmund wrote: post #194
tanepiper wrote: post #107

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Laughs in European Consumer Protection How's that "break regulation to innovate" working out for US?

Well, the per-capita GDP of the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi — is greater than that of the U.K., France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Poland and many others, and within 10% of Finland, Germany, Belgium and Austria. 34 of the 47 European states have lower per-capita GDPs than Mississippi. The median per-capita U.S. state GDP is $78,649; the median per-capita European state GDP is $28,713. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.or…

Ok. Now compare Mississippi to those places on wealth inequality, life expectancy, education, health care, social mobility, etc...

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Post by TheDong »

eddyg wrote: post #208
TheDong wrote: post #195

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America will continue to cripple EU consumer protection too. The EU ruled that the app store has to allow side-loading in the EU, but y'all still won't get a good browser because both Chrome and Mozilla have said making a side-loadable browser for iOS is only worth it if it can target the American market too, and the side-loading is region-locked. So sure, y'all can side-load apps in the EU now, but you still can't i…

You know uBO installs just fine in Orion by Kagi⁽¹⁾ (which is in the regular App Store) and that it has a much better privacy policy,⁽²⁾ right? Fuck yeah. ⁽¹⁾ https://kagi.com/orion/ ⁽²⁾ https://help.kagi.com/orion/privacy-and-security/respecting-...

Unfortunately I'm only able to use browsers which run on linux so I can share history between my phone and all other computers.

If Orion had a linux version, maybe I'd consider it, but the firefox-skin on webkit lets me share history even if I can't install extensions, and my history is more important.

A browser that only works on iOS and macOS doesn't have a better privacy policy for me in practice, apple collects all sorts of information that my linux devices don't.

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Post by jandrese »

eadmund wrote: post #194
tanepiper wrote: post #107

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Laughs in European Consumer Protection How's that "break regulation to innovate" working out for US?

Well, the per-capita GDP of the poorest U.S. state — Mississippi — is greater than that of the U.K., France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Poland and many others, and within 10% of Finland, Germany, Belgium and Austria. 34 of the 47 European states have lower per-capita GDPs than Mississippi. The median per-capita U.S. state GDP is $78,649; the median per-capita European state GDP is $28,713. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.or…

Beyond what everybody else has said, I wonder how much of that difference is due to the healthcare in Mississippi being counted as part of GDP instead of as a state service? Ever ballooning healthcare costs are the cancer that is eating the developed world alive.

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Post by forgetfreeman »

pc86 wrote: post #265
heresie-dabord wrote: post #236

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It is generally understood that GDP is a poor measure of what matters to people. The OP should know this. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/quality-of-...

It may be generally understood to you, but not to me, and the link you provided says absolutely nothing about GDP.

Not a problem, let's educate you a little. When graphed together GDP growth and real wages in the US show a disparity that clearly indicates that increases in GDP go somewhere other than working Americans. This being the case GDP metrics don't communicate meaningful information about quality of life.

https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 »

mihaaly wrote: post #133

User hostility level +1 But that is of no problem, users seem to enjoy being abused, repeatedly, so they continue giving their money to the organization to come up with further marketing startegy (smaless bullshit lies) to introduce the next one never asked for abuse in the next company output that solves very marginal or no problem of their life.

I will admit that of all the surveillance technology, this one had me scratching my head, because, while I accept I am not exactly a target audience, I just did not really believe people choose to not just use those devices, but spend money on them.

Some time ago, we got free alexa echo dots from contractor. They sold on ebay in record time. My hand is clearly not on the pulse of America.

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Post by smitelli »

probably_wrong wrote: post #160
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #122

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I will never have anything voice controlled in my house if I can help it. I mean I have them but they're all turned off. Except for the teenager's iphone, but we troll him by saying stuff like "Hey Siri, how do I stop being annoying?" or something like that.

I am fully in favor of team "I'm never sending my voice anywhere", but assuming a locally-hosted voice control I'll say: voice is a great interface around the house. If I'm preparing to leave and wonder whether I should bring a jacket, yelling "what's the weather like?" is much more convenient than taking out my phone (or go pick it up from the other room), unlock it, go to the home screen, open the weather app, wait…

I've never liked any answer I've gotten to questions like "what's the weather like."

I look at the forecast in my weather app -- the whole fullscreen thing -- and follow some sort of mental algorithm that I can't fully specify to arrive at the conclusion about what to wear/bring. The spoken data feels like it's missing something, or maybe it's just transmitted in a sequence that my brain can't work with.

It's not that I don't trust it, exactly. It's that I can't use it for the task I'm trying to do. Never could. I have this problem with a lot of voice interfaces, and it suggests to me that either a) they're not very good, or b) my brain is not designed for that kind of UX.

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Post by throwaway73750 »

Aeolun wrote: post #299
throwaway73750 wrote: post #276

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> According to what parameters? That it’s actually usable? Great healthcare is pointless if you cannot afford to go to the doctor. > 88% of the adult population (age over 18) in Missisipi has attained at least a High School degree. [3] Sure, but what standard of high school degree?

> That it’s actually usable? Great healthcare is pointless if you cannot afford to go to the doctor.

And yet Americans seem to survive more often with a healthcare they supposedly do not use than Italians and Frenchmen with a healthcare they use.

> Sure, but what standard of high school degree?

Surely you aren't implying that the standards of an American HS degree are so low that the education that that huge percentage of the population with a middle school degree or lower is receiving is comparable to it?

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Post by criddell »

bayindirh wrote: post #191
criddell wrote: post #178

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Amazon also sold the Echo in Europe, so it’s going to be interesting to see how European Consumer Protection helps out in this case.

GDPR says "hi". If users don't consent, Amazon can't collect. If users exercise their rights to be forgotten, Amazon has to delete. If Amazon breaks the thing because users have not consented, then Amazon will be on the hook for breaching the contract. "It was working until yesterday, how come?" EU will ask.

> "It was working until yesterday, how come?" EU will ask.

How long does this process typically take? When do you think EU consumers either get the functionality back or receive compensation?

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