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Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".

When I'm cooking food and hands dirty, setting a timer with my voice is extremely convenient. When I'm driving and want to switch ANC mode, it's convenient as well.

Timers, and converting those insane units US recipes use.

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I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".

There are a lot of reasons.

Driving, working (mute, tell it to do something, unmute -> you've done something without getting up on camera), dirty hands, too comfy to get up and switch the lights off, etc.

It's also probably great for old people. I keep checking for language support since I can definitely imagine an older person being able to learn voice prompts where they're often absolutely lost on a phone. It'd also let them call someone if they've fallen somewhere around the house and can't get up.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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I will never understand why anyone would ever want to use voice assistants (other than for accessibility reasons). It is so gimmicky and awkward to use. Android Auto does not even understand the word "no".

It's handy for non-tech-savy people, namely the elderly. It can be used for playing music: "Alexa play X", "Alexa shutdown" is all the user needs to know.

Arguably that comes under the 'accessibility' use case that was mentioned.

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It's actually working very well for the US, just not the US consumers

Can we not do this? I think it would be more correct to say that a nation is made up of its people (consumers) than its corporations. Correcting to the latter is at best pedantic and at worst just incorrect.

I think Americans do similar for the EU- think of the government and other things we see in the news or identify with it first before its people.

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America's lack of customer protection will hurt continue hurting its people. Ladies and gentlemen, please do something about it.

Laughs in European Consumer Protection How's that "break regulation to innovate" working out for US?

Has anyone checked whether this is also happening in the EU? Whether they've bothered about GDPR compliance or not.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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I agree with the principle but frankly it doesn't apply here. Privacy conscious people have been sounding the alarm about these devices since their invention and the overwhelming majority of consumers typically respond to those warnings with dismissal or ridicule. There's only so much sympathy and support and standing up for others that I can fit into any given day and I'd rather give it to people who weren't warned…

You probably overestimate how loud are these "Privacy conscious people". I bet if you ask ordinary Joe about privacy concerns with voice assistant devices, he'd tell he had no clue.

I'm just extrapolating from my own experience of telling people about various privacy concerns. 99% of the time it's either "I don't care", "I have nothing to hide", or "you're being paranoid".

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Well, I think the proper analogy would be that it's good for me but bad for my kidneys and colon. Edit: LOL at the downvotes. It's true. The US is basically mistreating its "undesirables". In the US if you're poor, f** you. Payday loans, food deserts, car dependency, etc, everything is meant to hit you while you're down.

Something bad for your kidneys is bad for you as well, even if you don't notice at the time/don't mind that level of damage. If the US harms its population, it is harming itself, because -- like every state -- it's at least partially made of its people.

Which seems to be exactly the point of the person you replied to.

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Laughs in European Consumer Protection How's that "break regulation to innovate" working out for US?

Well, depends what your goals are. Agile economy focused on health of companies, high revenue, and ability to quickly adapt to changing environment? US is great for that. It sucks to be the bottom 70% maybe, OK till maybe 95% and great above. EU focuses more on quality of life of all individuals, free access to healthcare and education, one just doesn't have these potentially very risky or destroying aspects of life…

Trust me, if you own your own company anywhere, 50 days paid vacation is unlikely. Owners tend to work more, not less.

Or let me be more flippant- sure I get 50 paid days off a year. I call it Sunday.

Re: The Alexa feature "do not send voice recordings" you enabled no longer available

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Thinking about that picture from a (UK?) hospital breakroom with the sign that said "Please turn off the Echo before discussing sensitive patient information."

I will never have anything voice controlled in my house if I can help it. I mean I have them but they're all turned off. Except for the teenager's iphone, but we troll him by saying stuff like "Hey Siri, how do I stop being annoying?" or something like that.

I am fully in favor of team "I'm never sending my voice anywhere", but assuming a locally-hosted voice control I'll say: voice is a great interface around the house.

If I'm preparing to leave and wonder whether I should bring a jacket, yelling "what's the weather like?" is much more convenient than taking out my phone (or go pick it up from the other room), unlock it, go to the home screen, open the weather app, wait 2-3 seconds and then scroll to the full forecast.

I'm not saying that checking my phone is an annoyance - it's still much better than checking the newspaper. But being able to keep my uninterrupted focus in what I'm doing is the type of luxury one only notices once it's gone.

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