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OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by ArthurStacks »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #824
ArthurStacks wrote: post #821

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If I lived in the USA I would be concerned, but I live in Switzerland and have residency in two other wealth haven countries, with businesses across multiple European countries. It isn't something that is an issue for me given the attitudes to wealth where I live.

That sounds great you sound delightful and clearly nothing to be worried about because nothing like that ever changes so you'll be fine forever I'll leave you to your gloating now. Make sure you keep doing it all in public like this just in case though.

No it isn't going to change, because it's part of our culture and we don't easily let foreign riff-raff in to corrupt that.

If youre pinning your hopes of the future of your country on the peasants taking from the rich, youre going to be very disappointed. Usually it doesn't end well, and especially doesn't when the elite will just mow them down with military drones who will follow orders to the letter.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by anticensor »

nnnnico wrote: post #514
cgio wrote: post #492

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And what is the argument on making that knowledge accessible via LLMs vs directly? Why was it not accessible before?

its a radically different approach to knowledge search and exploration than the previous "direct" alternatives like search engines/indexes/nlp

LLM is an NLP approach.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by genewitch »

__loam wrote: post #781
genewitch wrote: post #683

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During covid, when everyone was told to stay at home and not do anything, the library offered library books. And what they actually did is violate the requirement to have a physical copy of the book they were lending. As I understand it, they did not offer anything new that wasn't available to loan prior. I could be wrong. But if I'm not, I see no reason to lambast IA.

It's not lambasting to communicate what happened. IA got a C&D, refused to comply, and got sued for copyright infringement. The courts sided with the publishers when IA tried to claim it was fair use (technologists seem to have a pattern of stretching the definition of fair use). They've put their entire project at risk because they've repeatedly ignored the law here. That's just what happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/meta-defends-its...

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by giraffe_lady »

ArthurStacks wrote: post #831
giraffe_lady wrote: post #824

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That sounds great you sound delightful and clearly nothing to be worried about because nothing like that ever changes so you'll be fine forever I'll leave you to your gloating now. Make sure you keep doing it all in public like this just in case though.

No it isn't going to change, because it's part of our culture and we don't easily let foreign riff-raff in to corrupt that. If youre pinning your hopes of the future of your country on the peasants taking from the rich, youre going to be very disappointed. Usually it doesn't end well, and especially doesn't when the elite will just mow them down with military drones who will follow orders to the letter.

> and we don't easily let foreign riff-raff in to corrupt that.

There it is I knew we'd get here sooner or later.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by [deleted] »

jppittma wrote: post #750
enriquec wrote: post #738

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I think one of the things about growing up is accepting personal responsibility and not looking at the government/daddy to protect you from everything. If I sell 400 million skateboards - do we need a regulatory board to approve skateboard design changes? I'm sure millions of people make unregulated sandwiches at home just fine.

What I hate about this argument is that the FDA does not predate civilization. In fact, it's a relatively recent development. Not only has this idea been tried, but throughout most of human history, people lived in the world you describe, died of salmonella, and the people who lived in that world decided they'd be better if that wasn't a thing anymore.

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Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by insane_dreamer »

enriquec wrote: post #738
madsbuch wrote: post #737

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Yep, let's wing serving 400 million sandwiches - whatever the risk that the US population dies of salmonella or listeria. Anyways, one of the things about growing up is realizing that there is more to the world than just innovation.

I think one of the things about growing up is accepting personal responsibility and not looking at the government/daddy to protect you from everything. If I sell 400 million skateboards - do we need a regulatory board to approve skateboard design changes? I'm sure millions of people make unregulated sandwiches at home just fine.

> do we need a regulatory board to ...

yes, because it's clear from history that companies can't be trusted to not cut corners to boost profits at the expense of consumer safety

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by insane_dreamer »

ch4s3 wrote: post #188

I'm surprised to see only one comment here addressing the issue of Chinese AI companies just flatly ignoring US copyright and IP laws/norms. I wonder if there is a viable path where we can facilitate some sort of economic remuneration for people who write and create visual art while not giving up the game to Chinese companies. This seems to be a thorny dilemma.

> the issue of Chinese AI companies just flatly ignoring US copyright and IP laws/norms

because the US AI companies flatly ignored US copyright and IP laws/norms in creating their models to begin with

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by therealpygon »

lvturner wrote: post #503
therealpygon wrote: post #495

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Conversely, would you suggest that if an AI driver has a programming error and kills 20 people, that the person who reserved the car should be required to enter into a “User Agreement” that makes them take responsibility?

If it's a "self driving car" that the person "owns" - Yes. If it's a "Taxi service" that the person is using - No. If it's a car they own, they (should) have the ability to override the AI system and avoid the accident (ignoring nuances) - therefore owning responsibility. If it's a Taxi they would be in a position where they can't interfere with the operation of the system - therefore the taxi company owns the respon…

Oh? And how exactly do you suggest one override the electronics system of a drive-by-wire vehicle with integrated AI control, specifically?

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by selfmodruntime »

DrillShopper wrote: post #698
selfmodruntime wrote: post #685

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So? US AI must implement US rules by law. AI models are heavily censored and tend to favor certain political viewpoints.

Which political viewpoints do you think that AI models currently favor?

Empiric research as been done that shows current AI models to be left-leaning.

Here is some (non-empiric) displayed data: https://trackingai.org/political-test

Here is some research on that matter: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640 Here is more: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016726812...

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