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I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.
Minor build issues? They had a total recall. Fixed for free? Yes, if you can wait weeks for the fix. https://www.fastcompany.com/91109879/a-timeline-of-tesla-cyb... https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/waiting-o...
Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck
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#122Musk and Tesla could have dominated the US EV market for years to come had he stuck with the core clean energy message and not surrounded himself with sycophants and publicly acted like a racist jerk. It’s like a modern retelling of The Emperor’s New Clothes.
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#123Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…
> Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons I don’t know anything about Tesla or EVs or Europe. But is there a precedence to this? That a good product went extinct because of political/cultural reasons?
Tesla car’s don’t have a great reputation for quality or service.
They were among the first and the cars were good enough to persuade people, but there are many alternatives now. People are less likely to pay a premium for Tesla.
And the brand is irremediably damaged by Elon’s polarising politics.
Being off-putting to a large part of your market is bound to have negative effects on your sales.
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Tesla’s build quality was always in doubt but people were willing to overlook this fact. Now only the most ardent fanatics who live in Elon’s reality distortion field, of which I doubt there are many due to his deeply flawed personality, will buy his car. We are witnessing Elon’s house of cards coming down. Remember Elon Musk has massive loans with Tesla as collateral and a collapse of Tesla’s share price will absolu…
I think, the consensus is that Tesla would have to be at least as low as around $100-$120/share before there is a margin call on Musk's debt (with Tesla stock as collateral). So it will still have to drop 50% from current levels for the house of cards to start collapsing. But I guess nobody outside Musk and the bankers know the actual price point. Is it possible -- Yes, but not super likely in the near term.
Why not? Even at 50% of its current valuation, Tesla’s market cap would still be twice as high as Toyotas. Doesn’t sound reasonable to me, considering their sales are tanking…
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Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be. The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models bei…
The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Anyway, the Cybertruck is a uniquely fun to drive and nimble truck thanks to its four wheel steering and steer by wire. The F-150 Lightning feels like a clumsy relic in comparison. It's just an innovative vehicle with a bunch of e…
I think it's probably more appropriate to look at it this way:
The "headlights shelf" is the result of realizing that putting the headlights where the light bar happens to be would be ridiculously high and absolutely terrible for everyone else on the road. But the light bar couldn't move, there were too many concept drawings and renders that showcased the light bar. There was just too much "it has to look this way" pressure. So the headlights were crammed in a narrow space just above the bumper, meaning even a little snow buildup is enough to start blocking the headlights.
It's not enough to simply say "well the headlights are where they are and the bumper is where it is, so yeah there's a shelf but so what?" You should ask why these things are arranged as they are.
Look at the concept drawings and renders. The headlights are not there. The light bar was supposed to be the headlights. The location of the headlights is an "oh shit, what can we do about it?" reaction to a design that was fundamentally bad.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.
Also while I’m getting down voted by a bunch of folks that have never driven one… Supervised FSD is getting very very good. I use it most days to drive and very rarely have to disengage. It is significantly better than the other driver assistance systems that I’ve driven. It’s come a long way
As good as FSD is now, he definitely oversold it for years.
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#127By all accounts this vehicle is a failure. I suspect it wasn't actually intended to be the core to Tesla's future though, just an "epic" little novelty treat for Elon and some hardcore fanbois. But I am curious what their future is supposed to look like - were they expecting to grow based on sales of the existing (four?) models or do they have a new model in the pipeline?
In my opinion, this is the primary problem with Tesla (no new models?) and future directions. Tesla has promised a new Tesla Roadster for 5+ years now. There is no sign of it. Cybertruck also took ~5 years from reveal to release. Not sure where the Tesla semi is. There has been some mention of a low cost EV, but I don't think we've seen sign of that yet. Last I heard was that it was cancelled. So, given that Tesla us…
> There has been some mention of a low cost EV, but I don't think we've seen sign of that yet. Last I heard was that it was cancelled.
From that same earnings call "We are still on track to launch a more affordable model in the first half of 2025 and will continue to expand our lineup from there."
https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-transcripts/2025/01/29/te...
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> Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons Yes, and those political/cultural reasons are: let's not subsidise people who repeatedly and in public make unambiguous Nazi salutes. TBH it would be nice if those sentiments were spread a bit more widely than Europe.
Absolutely, people in Europe want nothing to do with the Nazis. That's why they drive Volkswagen .
Or Fords for that matter.
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I went to Santana Row in the Bay Area and the Tesla store was very popular. Most regular people aren't terminally online and constantly worried about politics.
You don't have to be terminally online to see nazi salutes at national political conventions or people protesting and pelting cars & stores nationwide.
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I get Tesla, it's a controversial company, but Apple?
Tesla would be dead in the water actually because its products are shit compared to what’s available today. They had a massive lead where a sub-Corolla quality build could sell for $60k+ because EV, and squandered it.
Corolla is pretty good.