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Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by lotsofpulp »

concordDance wrote: post #67
stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I'd want reports from randomly sampled Cybertruck users before agreeing to that last clause... Reports of Tesla cars being awful and full of problems have been around for a decade, but the people I've directly spoken to like their Teslas, though none own a Cybertruck.

I must have talked to 20+ Model Y owners by now, and no one has regretted it. So much so that I gave up my CarPlay requirement and bought a Model Y because the price and reputation (within my circles) was so good.

And 6 months in, I cannot complain. I would have spent $15k+ more on a Highlander or RX and I don't think I would have gotten any extra utility (other than CarPlay), and I would have gotten much worse torque. And I would have had to wait on a list for when Toyota randomly sent the color and model we wanted, and we would have had to bat down attempts by the dealer to charge more, and spend 3+ hours at the dealership.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

adamgamble wrote: post #74
stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.

Insert catastrophic failure

> Still love the truck, thanks Elon!

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by qwertox »

There's a video embedded in the article which points out the problems. But there's also a recent follow-up video where he tells what Tesla had to fix, and it's pretty concerning. It was more than just those panels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8FC4yF_68

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by stnikolauswagne »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #89
stnikolauswagne wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Most of German workers work for German companies following German laws and German culture, not American companies. So why twice the sick days versus EU neighbours? Which EU neighbours are we talking about? A cursory check shows them to be up by like 20ish% compared to czechia and poland, (which have decent sick pay) but up immensely compared to France and the UK (which do not). If #of sick days scales with % of sick…

>but up immensely compared to France and the UK (which do not) Do not what? >do you have a decent dataset on #sick days by any chance? I mean just google. For example: https://www.nzz.ch/english/why-europes-appetite-for-work-is-...

>but up immensely compared to France and the UK (which do not)

Have decent sick pay, france seems to pay 20%, UK like 10ish%, makes complete sense that such countries would have less sick days.

>I mean just google. For example:

This is the kind of mediocre dataset I dislike, going to their datasource ( https://gateway.euro.who.int/en/indicators/hfa_411-2700-abse... ) half of germanys neighbours have not reported data for 2022, the graph they use for "EU" seems to just use the data from 2020 and stretch it over to 2022 because thats where the WHO dataset ends.

For example if you check out slovenia in the dataset they have a huge spike in 2022 (similar to germany) but went down a lot in 2023, Germany has no 2023 data so we can't say whether germany went down based on the WHO dataset.

Two papers linked in the article show germany going down to at least 2021 levels in 2023, yet this does not seem represented in the graph.

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Post by VincentEvans »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #86
adamgamble wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.

It's certainly unique in that it gets less towing capacity than an F-350 for double the price.

When I actually see Cybertruck used to tow something - it will be noteworthy because I never seen it yet.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by joakleaf »

nprateem wrote: post #87
joakleaf wrote: post #78

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In my opinion, this is the primary problem with Tesla (no new models?) and future directions. Tesla has promised a new Tesla Roadster for 5+ years now. There is no sign of it. Cybertruck also took ~5 years from reveal to release. Not sure where the Tesla semi is. There has been some mention of a low cost EV, but I don't think we've seen sign of that yet. Last I heard was that it was cancelled. So, given that Tesla us…

> So it seems Musk thinks the future for Tesla is in the field of biped robots rather than vehicles. Really insightful there are still people who believe a word he says. Genuinely.

Musk likely wants to inflate the Tesla share price. He sells "visions of the future". This was always his way; FSD, low-cost trips to Mars, solar roofs, self-driving taxis and semis, tunnels everywhere to solve traffic, NeuraLink, hyperloop (sigh!)... and it appears robots is now his next tool to get publicity and increase TSLA.

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Post by mavhc »

porphyra wrote: post #71
lotsofpulp wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nazis on one hand, stealerships on the other. What a terrible market.

You can buy a Rivian or Polestar without dealing with dealerships. You could also buy a Hyundai Ioniq 5 or 6 directly on Amazon (even though the implementation still goes through dealerships in the backend) [1]. [1] https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-autos-buy-car...

Hyundai change their OS every other year, no chance of long term software updates.

Rivian's spin off to licence their OS may end up being the Android of cars to Tesla's iOS

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Post by mavhc »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #103
gmac wrote: post #46

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> Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons Yes, and those political/cultural reasons are: let's not subsidise people who repeatedly and in public make unambiguous Nazi salutes. TBH it would be nice if those sentiments were spread a bit more widely than Europe.

Absolutely, people in Europe want nothing to do with the Nazis. That's why they drive Volkswagen .

Seems like every car company that wasn't electric only was polluting us more on purpose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal so they're all evil

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by adamgamble »

adamgamble wrote: post #74
stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.

Also while I’m getting down voted by a bunch of folks that have never driven one… Supervised FSD is getting very very good. I use it most days to drive and very rarely have to disengage. It is significantly better than the other driver assistance systems that I’ve driven. It’s come a long way

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Post by Yeul »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

Maybe Musk can convince Congress to put subsidies on Tesla. Making it the American Trabant.
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