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Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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You don't have to be terminally online to see nazi salutes at national political conventions or people protesting and pelting cars & stores nationwide.

Nazis on one hand, stealerships on the other. What a terrible market.

You can buy a Rivian or Polestar without dealing with dealerships.

You could also buy a Hyundai Ioniq 5 or 6 directly on Amazon (even though the implementation still goes through dealerships in the backend) [1].

[1] https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-autos-buy-car...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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I will bet that that did not take into account that the bonding substrates have different coefficients of thermal expansion. Bad engineers only look at the glue, and not what the glue is holding together. But wow, why do people like the following put up with such bad design and engineering and still praise the company? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT8FC4yF_68

But the entire world is California and Texas, right? No need to worry about extreme temperature swings. I live in Ohio and have been LOLing at watching stainless steel Cybertrucks drive around completely covered in road salt. That’s gonna work great.

God, yes. Every time I see a Cybertruck in NC they all look, well, just dirty. And not like a normal dirty. It is hard to explain, but the aesthetics just do not sit right in my artists eye.

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.

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There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. You're either sick or you're not. If you're sick you don't go to work. If you're sick more than 3 days, you get a doctor's note. If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed. Ultimately, you're not penalized for be…

Every low or high-paying job I've had in the US is the same. I can just call in sick for a few days. Eventually they would want a doctor's note just to be sure.

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

It is not just political/cultural reasons. There are lots of other EV cars in Europe now (including both European, Korean and Chinese brands). Tesla has also gotten a bad reputation regarding build-quality and service lately, and Tesla's big sudden price reductions in 2023/2024 meant that the vehicles lost a lot of resale value. But yes; Tesla's primary remaining competitive advantage was its brand -- which Musk has…

Tesla’s build quality was always in doubt but people were willing to overlook this fact. Now only the most ardent fanatics who live in Elon’s reality distortion field, of which I doubt there are many due to his deeply flawed personality, will buy his car.

We are witnessing Elon’s house of cards coming down. Remember Elon Musk has massive loans with Tesla as collateral and a collapse of Tesla’s share price will absolutely affect his other ventures.

Unfortunately probably SoaceX as well. But think medium term this could be a good thing - new space is thriving and do we really need a gorilla in the room?

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Bit of both, I think. German winters are nasty, cold, and damp, it has the third-highest median age behind Japan and Italy, kids universally go to kindergarten to bring germs home, and it has a culture where you don't show up if actually ill - it's worth noting that a non-sick day does not mean a productive day, especially if your colleagues catch your illness. But also, Germans are pretty intense, despite their imag…

>German winters are nasty, cold, and damp Worse than Nordics/Scandinavia or neighboring Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, Poland? They don't have winter clothing in Germany? > If your company acts like a typical American one, I can well see a culture clash. Most of German workers work for German companies following German laws and German culture, not American companies. So why twice the sick days versus EU neighbour…

>Most of German workers work for German companies following German laws and German culture, not American companies. So why twice the sick days versus EU neighbours?

Which EU neighbours are we talking about? A cursory check shows them to be up by like 20ish% compared to czechia and poland, (which have decent sick pay) but up immensely compared to France and the UK (which do not). If #of sick days scales with % of sick pay it would make perfect sense for germany to be on top, do you have a decent dataset on #sick days by any chance? I was unable to find consistent data on this.

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By all accounts this vehicle is a failure. I suspect it wasn't actually intended to be the core to Tesla's future though, just an "epic" little novelty treat for Elon and some hardcore fanbois. But I am curious what their future is supposed to look like - were they expecting to grow based on sales of the existing (four?) models or do they have a new model in the pipeline?

In my opinion, this is the primary problem with Tesla (no new models?) and future directions.

Tesla has promised a new Tesla Roadster for 5+ years now. There is no sign of it. Cybertruck also took ~5 years from reveal to release. Not sure where the Tesla semi is.

There has been some mention of a low cost EV, but I don't think we've seen sign of that yet. Last I heard was that it was cancelled.

So, given that Tesla usually uses around 3-5 years from reveal to actual production and release of a new vehicle, they are probably not going to sell any new models the next 3-5 years. Maybe updated versions of the existing line-up (like the new model Y).

Obviously, last year Musk revealed the "Robovan" (a somewhat odd self-driving minibus) and the "Robotaxi" (a two-seater self-driving taxi without a driving wheel). Both of these depend on FSD living up to its name first, and neither seem to be intended for "normal" people.

During the last Quarterly Earnings call Musk heavily pushed the idea that Optimus (Tesla's still in development biped robot) would increase the company's market cap by 10x. So it seems Musk thinks the future for Tesla is in the field of biped robots rather than vehicles.

Musk also claimed that a Tesla would start FSD taxi-service in Texas this summer -- I find that timeline doubtful, given that it takes time to set up the infrastructure for a "taxi" company. In any case, self-driving taxis is another possibly future direction for Tesla.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Besides Tesla's being the best EV's at their price point based on every real-life conversation with Tesla owners, at least they pause deliveries and address issues, unlike many other car manufacturers.

Tell me of any other EV truck with anywhere near the same real-life mileage and features, and look at all the EV trucks that are actual failures, like the electric F-150.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.

Minor build issues? They had a total recall. Fixed for free? Yes, if you can wait weeks for the fix.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91109879/a-timeline-of-tesla-cyb...

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/waiting-o...

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