Gemini Robotics

Post by dinkumthinkum » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 9:53 PM UTC

spankalee wrote: post #50

Workaccount2 wrote: post #37

Google is probably the most undervalued tech company there is currently, by far : 1.) Has cutting edge in house AI models (Like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.) 2.) Has cutting edge in house AI hardware acceleration (Like Nvidia) 3.) Has (likely) cutting edge robotics (Like Boston Dynamics, Tesla, Figure) 4.) Has industry leading self driving taxis (Like Tesla wants) 5.) Has all the other stuff that Google does. (Like…

On one hand, I agree with you, on the other, as a former Googler I think that "just needs better coaching" is a huge barrier in Google's current corporate culture and environment. Google as a whole has a long history of not being able to successfully build great products out of great tech. That seems wrong from looking at search, Gmail, Maps*, Docs*, etc., but I think these are cases where a single great insight or i…

Post by varjag » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 9:58 PM UTC

whiplash451 wrote: post #299

fusslo wrote: post #239

I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing. When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to societ…

Let me bring some perspective. In 1998, CMU was showing a self-driving car "driving on its own" [1] 27 years later, 99.99% of trips are driven by humans. Real-world robotics takes multiple decades to pan out. These demos are just that: demos . What you are seeing will not remotely impact your life before the 2050's, if ever. What you should be worried about, however, is you (not your job) becoming irrelevant if you d…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:03 PM UTC

DebtDeflation wrote: post #313

renecito wrote: post #272

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Get concerned when you see a real product in the market that has a sustainable business model. The man behind the curtain here has an army of engineers, unlimited cloud nodes and basically has harvested all the data currently available in the world. It doesn't get any better than this right now. What's next? They'll ping you later on Linked-in with this awesome idea that you need to make sure runs in a $1 USD microco…

I saw Musk saying a couple of days ago that we've "hit the limit of peak data" for training AI. My immediate reaction was no, surely you have not trained on every copyrighted textbook on every subject ever written. You hit the peak of easily accessible internet data that you could quickly steal to train your models.

Post by CamperBob2 » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:05 PM UTC

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daemonologist wrote: post #10

There's one shot that stood out to me, right at the end of the main video, where the robot puts a round belt on a pulley: https://youtu.be/4MvGnmmP3c0?si=f9dOIbgq58EUz-PW&t=163 . Of course there are probably many examples of this exact action in its training data, but it felt very intuitive in a way the shirt-folding and object-sorting tasks in these demos usually don't. (Also there seems to be some kind of video aut…

It felt extra fake - the cherry picked people lacking rudimentary mechanical skills, using the ~$50K set of Franka Emika arms vs their default 'budget' ALOHA 2 grippers, the sheer luck that helped the robots put the belt on instead of removing it from the pulley. The trick was in that the belt was too tight for an average human to put on with brute force, and disabling the tensioner or using tricks would require bett…

Post by n_ary » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:06 PM UTC

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #326

n_ary wrote: post #291

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When I see pro-AI promoters giving weird analogies that do not fit, I get a feeling that they are either management class(aka MBA types) or are not serious professionals. One key point we must first understand, coding is NOT software engineering or even programming! Writing code is the last bit, a minimal fraction of the job description(unless you are actually indie dev or working for consulting firms). The core task…

I agree with your first part but I think you are vastly underestimating how much writing code is a part of programming. I also in these discussions people, ironically, really overestimate how much “untangling requirements” is part of the day to day for the majority of programmers. There is obviously some of that but unless you are just talking about consultants that interact directly with customers, a lot of this is…